Top-200 Hockey Players of All-Time - Voting Results

[quoipourquoi]

Player	Total	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	NR
Norm Ullman	117	5	2	1	2	3	1	1
Alexander Maltsev	103	2	2	2	3	3	1		1	1
Jarome Iginla	102	3	1	4	1	3		1		1		1
Vladimir Martinec	95		4	3	3	1			2	1		1
Eddie Gerard	73			1	5		4	1		3		1
Russell Bowie	67	3	2				2	1	1	1		5
Erik Karlsson	62	1	1	1	1	2	2		1		3	3
Drew Doughty	49		1	2		1		3	1		3	4
Toe Blake	40	1					2	3	1	2	1	5
Doug Gilmour	40		2			1	1	1	1	1	2	6
Peter Stastny	26			1				1	3	2	1	7
Bill Quackenbush	18						1	1	2	1	1	9
Serge Savard	17					1	1		1		3	9
Valeri Vasiliev	16							2	1	2	1	9

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Before anyone asks, Eddie Gerard makes the cut, because the rule was that the threshold must be 1.5 points per ballot cast, which in this case is a separation of 22.5 points (15 ballots were cast). Gerard was only separated by 22.

Player	Total	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	NR
Henrik Lundqvist	106	4	2	3	3				1			3
Russell Bowie	99	5	2	1			3	1	1		1	2
Tony Esposito	88		1	5	3		1	1	3			2
Erik Karlsson	76	3		1	2	1	1	1	1	2	2	2
Drew Doughty	74		2	1	2	3	1	2	1			4
Toe Blake	69			2	1	2	3	2	3		2	1
Johnny Bower	67	1	1	1	1		3	1	3	2	1	2
Doug Gilmour	66	1	1		3	3			1	1	3	3
Bill Quackenbush	55		2	1		1	1	3	1	1	1	5
Jiri Holecek	53		1			3	1	3		4	1	3
Pavel Bure	34	1	2			1						12
Serge Savard	34	1	1	1				1		1	1	10
Peter Stastny	25				1	1	1			2	3	8
Valeri Vasiliev	24		1			1		1	1	1		11
Busher Jackson	10						1			2	1	12

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Player	Total	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	NR
Roy Worters	106	4	4		1	1	2		1	2		1
Doug Gilmour	103	1	5	3		2		2		2		1
Johnny Bower	101	3	2	1	2	2	1	1	2	2
Jiri Holecek	95	2	1	1	3	3	1	2	2			1
Toe Blake	89		2	2	2	3	3	1	1		1	1
Bill Quackenbush	75		2	2	3		1	1	2	2	1	2
Valeri Vasiliev	64	1		1	1	1	2	4	2		1	3
Pavel Bure	48	3		1	1						3	8
Serge Savard	44	2			1			2	1	2	2	6
Ron Francis	37			2	1		1	1	1		2	8
Peter Stastny	36			1	1		1	1		4	4	4
Busher Jackson	26						4		2			10
Rod Langway	23			2					2		1	11
Bernie Parent	17					2		1			1	12
Pavel Datsyuk	16					2				2		12

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Player	Total	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	NR
Valeri Vasiliev	111	3	3	3	1	1	2	1	1
Bill Quackenbush	105	4	3	2	1		1	2		1		1
Peter Stastny	93	1	2	1	3	2	3	2			1
Serge Savard	71	2	1	2		2		1	2	1	2	2
Ron Francis	59		3		1	2	1	2				6
Pavel Bure	53	3		1		1	1		1		1	7
Busher Jackson	53	1		1	2	1	1		1	3	1	4
Alex Delvecchio	47			1	2	1	1	1	2	1	2	4
Rod Langway	44		2		1	1	2		1			8
Bernie Parent	41	1		2		1			2		3	6
Gilbert Perreault	38		1	1		1	1	1	1	1	1	7
Jack Stewart	37			1	1		1	1	2	3	1	5
Guy Lapointe	34				1	2	1	1	1	1	1	7
Pavel Datsyuk	31				2			2	1	2	2	6
Doug Bentley	8							1		2		12

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Player	Total	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	NR
Ivan Johnson	114	1	6	4		1	2			1
Roberto Luongo	90		4	2	2	1	1	2	1	1		1
Busher Jackson	83	4			3		1		5	1		1
Bernie Parent	81	2	1		3	2	1	1	1	3	1
Jack Stewart	79		1	5	1	1		3	1	1		2
Alex Delvecchio	77	1	2	1	1	1	2	3	1	1	1	1
Pavel Bure	63	3			1	3	1				3	4
Gilbert Perreault	50	2			1	1	2		1	1	2	5
Rod Langway	47	1	1	1		1	2		1		1	7
Scott Niedermayer	44			1	1	2	1	2		1	2	5
Pavel Datsyuk	35				1		2	2	1	2	3	4
Guy Lapointe	27			1	1				3	1	1	8
Tommy Phillips	25	1				2				1	1	10
Doug Bentley	10							2		1		12

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Player	Total	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	NR
Alex Delvecchio	97	1	6	1	1	1	1	1	1
Vladimir Krutov	71	1		4	2		1	1	1	1	1	1
Pavel Datsyuk	70	1			2	2	6	1				1
Pavel Bure	68	3	1	1		1		3	1			3
Connor McDavid	64	3	1	1	1	1			1		1	4
Adam Oates	59		1	1	1	3	2	1		1	1	2
Gilbert Perreault	58	1	1		2	2	1		2	1		3
Scott Niedermayer	57			3	1	1	1	2	1	2		2
Rod Langway	53	1	1	2	1		1		2			5
Guy Lapointe	37	1			1			2	2	2	2	3
Tommy Phillips	31		2			1				2	3	5
Doug Bentley	25				1	1			2	1	4	4
Hod Stuart	15	1						1			1	10
Paul Kariya	10							1		3		9

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Player	Total	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	NR
Hugh Lehman	125	8	3				3		1			1
Gilbert Perreault	101	3	2	4		1		3	1			2
Scott Niedermayer	88	2	2	1	3		1	1	3	1	1	1
Adam Oates	77		1	1	3	2	3	2		2		2
Guy Lapointe	76	1	1	2		4		2	3			3
Rod Langway	68	1	1	1	1	3	2	1			2	4
Doug Bentley	66		1	2	2	1	1	2	1	2	1	3
Tommy Phillips	56		1	2	1	1	1		2	3	1	4
George Hainsworth	47		3			1		1	1	2	3	5
Marcel Pronovost	42	1			2	1		1	1	2	1	7
Tiny Thompson	34			1	1	1	2		1			10
Mike Modano	32			1		1	1	2	1		2	8
Paul Kariya	31				2		1	1		3	2	7
Hod Stuart	24		1		1		1			1	1	11
Johnny Bucyk	13			1					1		2	12

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Player	Total	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	NR
Doug Bentley	76	4		2		1	2			2
Rod Langway	70	2	3	2	1							3
Tommy Phillips	62	1	1	1	3		1	1	1	1		1
Marcel Pronovost	57	2				3	1	2	2			1
George Hainsworth	54	1	2		1	3					1	3
Mike Modano	47		1	1	2			3	1		1	2
Tiny Thompson	36		3	1							1	6
Syd Howe	36				1	2	1	2		2		3
Hod Stuart	33	1		1	1		1		1			6
Sweeney Schriner	32		1	1		1			2	1	1	4
Paul Kariya	32			1	1	1	1		1	1	1	4
Jacques Laperriere	23			1			2		1	1		6
Hooley Smith	23				1		2		1	1	1	5
Dale Hawerchuk	9							1	1		2	7
Alexei Kasatonov	8							1		1	2	7
Johnny Bucyk	7							1		1	1	8

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[TheDevilMadeMe]

I think that adding Gerard is the right move, mainly because the 7 point difference between him and Bowie is significant, even if small. (Plus not that it should matter as a technical matter, but I'm pretty sure Gerard would have done better if BenchBrawl managed to vote this round).

The top 4 seemed obvious to me, seems they were obvious to the majority, even if it isn't the exact order I had myself.

 

[BenchBrawl]

I think that adding Gerard is the right move, mainly because the 7 point difference between him and Bowie is significant, even if small. (Plus not that it should matter as a technical matter, but I'm pretty sure Gerard would have done better if BenchBrawl remembered to vote this round).

The top 4 seemed obvious to me, seems they were obvious to the majority, even if it isn't the exact order I had myself.

He would have. #1.

 

[Professor What]

Very different from my ballot, but I can't really say I have a problem with the result. Personally, I didn't find much very clear, as the discussion tightened a lot of guys in my eyes.

I do acknowledge being the sore thumb sticking out on Blake. I feel like I must have t really missed something to be so far away from everyone else on him.

 

[MXD]

Very different from my ballot, but I can't really say I have a problem with the result. Personally, I didn't find much very clear, as the discussion tightened a lot of guys in my eyes.

I do acknowledge being the sore thumb sticking out on Blake. I feel like I must have t really missed something to be so far away from everyone else on him.

Those players were very close so "off" results will happen.

My NR of Iginla is already aging pretty badly.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I think that adding Gerard is the right move, mainly because the 7 point difference between him and Bowie is significant, even if small. (Plus not that it should matter as a technical matter, but I'm pretty sure Gerard would have done better if BenchBrawl managed to vote this round).

The top 4 seemed obvious to me, seems they were obvious to the majority, even if it isn't the exact order I had myself.

No offense meant, but how could the top 4 be obvious to anyone?

There are players from different eras, different leagues playing different positions with different strengths and weaknesses. Its not like they were the "Big Four" going in.

 

[bobholly39]

No offense meant, but how could the top 4 be obvious to anyone?

There are players from different eras, different leagues playing different positions with different strengths and weaknesses. Its not like they were the "Big Four" going in.

The top 4 seemed pretty set in stone to me too to be honest. The order was a bit less sure, but i figured they'd be top ranked based on the conversations. They were all 4 in my top 5 (had Gilmour neck and neck with Iginla).

I initially had Karlsson at #1 - but ended up dumping him all the way to #6 at the very end. In the end - it came down to me simply not being sure how to assess his lack of longevity by virtue of still being active vs full careers of others.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

The top 4 seemed pretty set in stone to me too to be honest. The order was a bit less sure, but i figured they'd be top ranked based on the conversations. They were all 4 in my top 5 (had Gilmour neck and neck with Iginla).

I initially had Karlsson at #1 - but ended up dumping him all the way to #6 at the very end. In the end - it came down to me simply not being sure how to assess his lack of longevity by virtue of still being active vs full careers of others.

That surprises me.

Didn't see that at all. Only Iginla was in my top 4.

My apologies to Mr. DevilMadeMe.

 

[quoipourquoi]

#10s and NRs are already showing their power. Could be a tough project for polarizing players.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

#10s and NRs are already showing their power. Could be a tough project for polarizing players.

They killed Bowie.

3 firsts and 5 NRs

 

[Michael Farkas]

I'm very curious about that Toe Blake first place vote...by virtually any "metric" it seems like someone else on the list would trump him...

 

[Michael Farkas]

Not a voter. But my ballot would not have looked too too dissimilar...I wouldn't have had enough clout to push Ullman from the top slot (as he would have certainly been on my ballot, not 1, but he would have gotten points). The only thing I may have done that had some influence is probably gotten Erik Karlsson over Bowie. I may have done enough to get Martinec over Iginla...I'm not sure about that one though...

 

[Hockey Outsider]

@Dennis Bonvie - I'll respond here since the Vote 1 thread was locked (though I guess it's a moot point since Iginla was voted in).

My comment on Iginla was poorly-phrased. He was consistently very good of course, especially as a goal-scorer, but he didn't have as many great seasons as I would have expected. Too many sub-70 points scattered throughout his prime. It's hard to imagine that over the three years immediately after his Richard/Ross/near-Hart, he was out of the top 20 in scoring. I voted him 7th this round (he finished 3th), so I'm not that much lower on him that the general consensus, but that was what gave me some hesitation.

 

[MXD]

I'm very curious about that Toe Blake first place vote...by virtually any "metric" it seems like someone else on the list would trump him...

For your information, that wasn't me. Had him 7th, but probably one or two good seasons (not even Hart seasons, just prime seasons) could've pushed him as high as second in this group.

I did put lots of positive weight into Blake reinventing his game into something of an elite support player though. Not every player was able to do this -- Busher Jackson being a prime example of someone who wasn't.

 

[Professor What]

I'm very curious about that Toe Blake first place vote...by virtually any "metric" it seems like someone else on the list would trump him...

That was me, and as I posted above, I'm already doubting myself very seriously over that. Perhaps I overreacted to what I felt was some very unfair criticism that was thrown his way, and that combined with ranking him too highly to start with messed me up? I don't know... I'm not feeling very good after that one though.

 

[quoipourquoi]

That was me, and as I posted above, I'm already doubting myself very seriously over that. Perhaps I overreacted to what I felt was some very unfair criticism that was thrown his way, and that combined with ranking him too highly to start with messed me up? I don't know... I'm not feeling very good after that one though.

Always good to be flexible on your assessment, but also don’t feel pressure to conform with what others have. I’ve cast some lonely #1s in my day, and I’d do it again.

 

[ResilientBeast]

Always good to be flexible on your assessment, but also don’t feel pressure to conform with what others have. I’ve cast some lonely #1s in my day, and I’d do it again.

I'd assume on goalies?

 

[Professor What]

Always good to be flexible on your assessment, but also don’t feel pressure to conform with what others have. I’ve cast some lonely #1s in my day, and I’d do it again.

I mostly stand behind my vote. I was one of the lower votes on Ullman, but as I said before, it felt like a logjam of very close players. I think I'd cast that vote again, even being in the minority. I definitely feel like I screwed up on Blake though. That said, I might stick out again, because, while I don't think he's going to be my number one in the second vote, he's still going to do well. I am legitimately impressed with his career.

I think what's bothering me is that since I am still at the point of learning a lot on here, I'm afraid I'm going to detract from the project after that, which I don't want to do.

 

[Michael Farkas]

Nonsense. Do your thing. The whole process is to learn...for all of us. There is no real relevance to being 104 or 105...

 

[quoipourquoi]

I'd assume on goalies?

Ha.

Terry Sawchuk comes to mind. I take solace in knowing that thinking he’s top-20 is probably a pretty conservative ranking in general, even if he and Plante take a tumble relative to non-goaltenders every time Brodeur’s and Roy’s stock go up. One must fall for another to rise and whatnot.

I think Apps might have been another.

 

[quoipourquoi]

Player	Total	1	2	3	4	5	6	7	8	9	10	NR
Henrik Lundqvist	106	4	2	3	3				1			3
Russell Bowie	99	5	2	1			3	1	1		1	2
Tony Esposito	88		1	5	3		1	1	3			2
Erik Karlsson	76	3		1	2	1	1	1	1	2	2	2
Drew Doughty	74		2	1	2	3	1	2	1			4
Toe Blake	69			2	1	2	3	2	3		2	1
Johnny Bower	67	1	1	1	1		3	1	3	2	1	2
Doug Gilmour	66	1	1		3	3			1	1	3	3
Bill Quackenbush	55		2	1		1	1	3	1	1	1	5
Jiri Holecek	53		1			3	1	3		4	1	3
Pavel Bure	34	1	2			1						12
Serge Savard	34	1	1	1				1		1	1	10
Peter Stastny	25				1	1	1			2	3	8
Valeri Vasiliev	24		1			1		1	1	1		11
Busher Jackson	10						1			2	1	12

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[Michael Farkas]

Man, everyone missed someone's ballot...all in the case of Toe Blake, missed multiple...

In fact, each player was simultaneously top 3 on a ballot and not ranked on ballots, except for Peter Stastny and Busher Jackson...

seventies' Bure polarization phone notification just popped as well...look at that little spread...

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Really surprised Johnny Bower didn't get in.

 

[Dr John Carlson]

I had Lundqvist inside my top 100, and now I'm seeing that 6 people voted for him higher than I did this week? Did not expect that.

 

[MXD]

I had Lundqvist inside my top 100, and now I'm seeing that 6 people voted for him higher than I did this week? Did not expect that.

I had him at or around 70. He was very, very long overdue as far as I concerned.