Top-100 Hockey Players of All-Time - Voting Results (Part 2)

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EDIT: Thread continued from here: Top-100 Hockey Players of All-Time - Voting Results (Part 1)

PlayerBallotsPoints1st2nd3rd4th5th6th7th8th9th10thNR
Ed Belfour221473631212312
Boris Mikhailov231401521272211
Bill Cowley221333242431122
Sergei Fedorov2313162225331
Zdeno Chara211232414113323
Bill Gadsby2212041221223322
Nels Stewart211142243213313
Duncan Keith2111211412512313
Eric Lindros2010421361344
Martin St. Louis2210214422452
Brian Leetch23941231310121
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DannyGallivan

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Wow, Gadsby with four first place votes...doesn't make the list again...in favor of Zdeno Chara, no less.

Belfour was my #1 this round, surprisingly. The rest of my top-5 didn't make the list...
Belfour was my #2... the rest of my top 5 didn't make it.
 

sr edler

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Nels Stewart is trash (if I should be over-dramatic about it). I'm glad I was perhaps a bit too high on Fedorov because some participants seems to be a bit unfair to his case in the other direction, and it needs to be weigh up so he can end up somewhere in the middle.
 

tony d

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I was 1 of the 2 people who didn't rank Belfour, shows what I know. :sarcasm:. Still it's been a fun list to help rank, looking forward to seeing the rest of the list.
 

sr edler

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I was 1 of the 2 people who didn't rank Belfour, shows what I know.

Belfour was the last one in a relatively long row of players now (Firsov, Gardiner, etc.) touted by a particular (and apparently influential) clique of participants as a player who should warrant immediate consideration for leapfrogging the rest of the field. You shouldn't feel bad at all for raising a critical eyebrow. I suspect in this new batch of players, Mark Howe could be the next guy.
 

wetcoast

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Belfour was the last one in a relatively long row of players now (Firsov, Gardiner, etc.) touted by a particular (and apparently influential) clique of posters as a player who should warrant immediate consideration for leapfrogging the rest of the field. You shouldn't feel bad at all for raising a critical eyebrow. I suspect in this new batch of players, Mark Howe could be the next guy.

Mark Howe deserves to be on the top 100 list IMO.
 
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ChiTownPhilly

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Y'know what's really interesting- a pool of 24 voters choosing from 11 names... and no-one was spared an 'NR.'

Larger pool of nominees next Round means players who divide opinion are going to fare better. Good news for Lindros; bad news for Leetch.
 
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Kyle McMahon

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I'm a bit surprised Belfour was the #1, but this was a pretty wide-open field. Leetch dropping all the way to last place also caught me off guard a little. Glad Fedorov finally got in. I felt strong cases were made for Cowley and Chara, so not surprised they made it through as one-and-done nominees.
 

Michael Farkas

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No way...I had Ullman ranked really high (relatively speaking) on my initial, initial, super-rough draft of a draft...then when I went back and watched him, I saw why he wasn't considered anything special despite his point totals. He was a #2 center really. As dumb as it sounds from the raw numbers, he wasn't anything great. Fedorov was better, even with his warts. Hell, Ron Francis was better than Ullman.

Plus, who is gonna add a player to an all-time list who, as an adult, is referred to as "Normie"...pass...
 

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No way...I had Ullman ranked really high (relatively speaking) on my initial, initial, super-rough draft of a draft...then when I went back and watched him, I saw why he wasn't considered anything special despite his point totals. He was a #2 center really. As dumb as it sounds from the raw numbers, he wasn't anything great. Fedorov was better, even with his warts. Hell, Ron Francis was better than Ullman.

Plus, who is gonna add a player to an all-time list who, as an adult, is referred to as "Normie"...pass...

Canadiens, as long as they controlled the match-up, would run the Backstrom line against the Ullman line defensively, saving the Richard and Beliveau lines for situational advantages.
 

MXD

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There's no way I would've ranked Cowley, Lindros, Fedorov and Stewart had Round 18 would've been a "Big" Round. Gadsby and Mikhaïlov would've been "maybes", too.
 

MXD

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No way...I had Ullman ranked really high (relatively speaking) on my initial, initial, super-rough draft of a draft...then when I went back and watched him, I saw why he wasn't considered anything special despite his point totals. He was a #2 center really. As dumb as it sounds from the raw numbers, he wasn't anything great. Fedorov was better, even with his warts. Hell, Ron Francis was better than Ullman.

Plus, who is gonna add a player to an all-time list who, as an adult, is referred to as "Normie"...pass...

I'm surprised you didn't found a spot for Normie Smith on your R1 list.
 

bobholly39

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Fedorov getting ranked over Norm Ullman is ridiculous, but obviously 6 voters strongly disagree.

You really should only vote in a round based on whose available in that round. I hope you didn't vote Fedorov low specifically because you wanted to wait for someone else to show up. It kind of defeats the purpose of the whole round 1 process if you vote that way.
 
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Dennis Bonvie

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I'm a bit surprised Belfour was the #1, but this was a pretty wide-open field. Leetch dropping all the way to last place also caught me off guard a little. Glad Fedorov finally got in. I felt strong cases were made for Cowley and Chara, so not surprised they made it through as one-and-done nominees.

Because I had Chara at 116 and Cowley not on my original list at all, I was somewhat surprised.
 

Kyle McMahon

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Because I had Chara at 116 and Cowley not on my original list at all, I was somewhat surprised.

I think I had Cowley around 100 on my original list, so he was actually a riser for me. He was less of a product of the war than I originally suspected. I think we're on the same page as far as being skeptical of offense-only players, but Cowley appears to have produced at a Jagr-like level during his best seasons.
 

quoipourquoi

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PlayerBallotsPoints1st2nd3rd4th5th6th7th8th9th10thNR
Bill Gadsby161114211241 1 5
Joe Thornton161063311133 15
Nels Stewart139031213 2 1 8
Patrick Kane158521222 4 26
Duncan Keith15851124111 316
Brian Leetch15821122 331116
Dave Keon128013132 29
Eric Lindros1278211 34 1 9
Mark Howe1466112 122 237
Eddie Gerard1164 3211 12110
Martin St. Louis1057 3111 21111
Sid Abel1044 22 121211
Tony Esposito8411 111211 13
Serge Savard7371 1 1 13 14
Jarome Iginla7291 1 22114
Erik Karlsson626 1 2111 15
Toe Blake824 11 1 2313
Valeri Vasiliev524 1 11 1 116
Norm Ullman513 2 2116
Peter Stastny513 121116
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MXD

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Did my vote count?
Because if it did, it's safe to say it indeed f***ed up the whole thing.
 
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