Blue Jays Discussion: Today the off-season begins. For the Blue Jays.

[The Nemesis]

carry on.

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[Eyedea]

Ben Nicholson-Smith @bnicholsonsmith
While Edwin Encarnacion's wrist feels better, he's not yet ready to play and may not have enough time to return in 2013 per John Gibbons.

 

[Suntouchable13]

Ben Nicholson-Smith @bnicholsonsmith
While Edwin Encarnacion's wrist feels better, he's not yet ready to play and may not have enough time to return in 2013 per John Gibbons.

Well, this has been such a great season hasn't it?

 

[TootooTrain]

Atleast Rasmus should be coming back for the last week or two.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

http://www.bluejayshipsters.com/2013/09/angels-vs-blue-jays-battle-for-least.html

In the spirit of the current series against the Angels, there's an article up in Hipster Land profiling perhaps the two most disappointing teams in the MLB and where they go from here. Enjoy!

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

Ben Nicholson-Smith @bnicholsonsmith
While Edwin Encarnacion's wrist feels better, he's not yet ready to play and may not have enough time to return in 2013 per John Gibbons.

I'm completely cool with them sitting him the rest of the season. No need to rush him back and risk aggravating anything. The main goal should be to bring back everyone that's part of the core healthy for spring training.

 

[Nasty Nazem]

JP Arencibia has a .241 on-base percentage (.241!! Holy mother of god... like I can't even understand how it is possible to have it so damn low). .382 slugging percentage. -0.1 WAR.

Catcher of the future!

 

[The Nemesis]

JP Arencibia has a .241 on-base percentage (.241!! Holy mother of god... like I can't even understand how it is possible to have it so damn low). .382 slugging percentage. -0.1 WAR.

Catcher of the future!

was noted the other day that since the 1910s, JP's OBP is like 3rd or 4th worst all-time. And most of the guys that are on that list of offensive ineptitude are defensive specialists whose gloves make up for the awful bats.


and the GDT is open.

 

[TootooTrain]

Is this canadian showcase tournament going to be televised?

 

[dredeye]

I'm completely cool with them sitting him the rest of the season. No need to rush him back and risk aggravating anything. The main goal should be to bring back everyone that's part of the core healthy for spring training.

So am I. We aren't making a run so let some young guys get some playing time. Give Derosa a few more games and bobs your uncle. No need to push anyone this year.

 

[Nasty Nazem]

was noted the other day that since the 1910s, JP's OBP is like 3rd or 4th worst all-time. And most of the guys that are on that list of offensive ineptitude are defensive specialists whose gloves make up for the awful bats.


and the GDT is open.

Yup, 3rd worst over that time with over 10,000+ players in that span. What a ridiculously terrible player. They have to dump him this off-season for whatever you can get. There is just no way they can go with him as a starter next season.

 

[Woodman19]

Yup, 3rd worst over that time with over 10,000+ players in that span. What a ridiculously terrible player. They have to dump him this off-season for whatever you can get. There is just no way they can go with him as a starter next season.

I think he might not get qualified in the offseason, who the hell would want to deal anything (even cash) for a player who bats like this.

 

[TootooTrain]

I think he might not get qualified in the offseason, who the hell would want to deal anything (even cash) for a player who bats like this.

I lost my marbles when he got plunked.

 

[The Nemesis]

Huh, that was weird (first time I've tried to make the new thread specifically by copying a bunch of posts from the old, as opposed to copying old posts into a pre-made thread).

Oh well.

and for the curious, the 70% comes from the fact that tonight's lineup features only 3 players (Dickey, Reyes, Lind) that were starters at the beginning of the season (Lawrie was hurt then. Encarnacion, Bautista, Rasmus, Cabrera, Izturis are hurt now. Arencibia doesn't start tonight. Bonifacio been traded.)

 

[canucksfan]

Thole has a higher OBP I think

 

[The Nemesis]

Thole has a higher OBP I think

He does. Barely. .243 to JP's .241

Of course Thole has a BA of .147 to JP's .205

 

[canucksfan]

He does. Barely. .243 to JP's .241

Of course Thole has a BA of .147 to JP's .205

Catching and 2nd were beyond horrendous offensively and defensively this year. Before Goins, out 2nd baseman batted .210.

 

[theaub]

I'm going to enjoy going to Boston to watch the Bisons play

 

[The Nemesis]

I'm going to enjoy going to Boston to watch the Bisons play

the rate things are going you might be watching the New Hampshire Fisher Cats by then

 

[weems]

JP Arencibia has a .241 on-base percentage (.241!! Holy mother of god... like I can't even understand how it is possible to have it so damn low). .382 slugging percentage. -0.1 WAR.

Catcher of the future!

The most hilarious part is that his bat is supposed to be his calling card

Just listened to the AA interview on PTS the other day and he wasnt too complimentary about JPA saying things like he has flaws and alot of things he needs to get better at. If the front office is really concerned with team defence like they've been saying the past few days theres just no way you can bring JPA back as a starting catcher.

I think signing Ruiz for 2-3 years makes alot of sense.

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

The most hilarious part is that his bat is supposed to be his calling card

Just listened to the AA interview on PTS the other day and he wasnt too complimentary about JPA saying things like he has flaws and alot of things he needs to get better at. If the front office is really concerned with team defence like they've been saying the past few days theres just no way you can bring JPA back as a starting catcher.

I think signing Ruiz for 2-3 years makes alot of sense.

Absolutely. I think he's a significant upgrade across the board, and shouldn't be too costly. The fact that he's not completely uncomfortable catching the knuckleball means he wouldn't have to automatically sit every five days.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

The most hilarious part is that his bat is supposed to be his calling card

Just listened to the AA interview on PTS the other day and he wasnt too complimentary about JPA saying things like he has flaws and alot of things he needs to get better at. If the front office is really concerned with team defence like they've been saying the past few days theres just no way you can bring JPA back as a starting catcher.

I think signing Ruiz for 2-3 years makes alot of sense.

No doubt that there is no way JPA should be brought back as the starting catcher. But I have been asking myself this the last little while -- do you bring him back as the back-up catcher?

 

[Diamond Joe Quimby]

No doubt that there is no way JPA should be brought back as the starting catcher. But I have been asking myself this the last little while -- do you bring him back as the back-up catcher?

If he would accept the role, I couldn't see why not. He certainly wouldn't cost very much. This winter is the first pass through arbitration, and he's been remarkably unspectacular.

 

[canucksfan]

I don't think I would want JP as the backup catcher.

 

[Nasty Nazem]

http://blogs.thescore.com/mlb/2013/09/12/the-company-j-p-arencibia-keeps/

A very reasonable article on Arencibia.