Tim Stutzle vs Quinton Byfield

[Pavel Buchnevich]

How do those players have anything in common, or in common with Byfield? And is this comment supposed to be disparaging?

I wouldn't be sure that Hayton will be better than Patrick. Everyone talks about Patrick as some huge bust, yet I don't understand it. I don't know why his stock would've downgraded this year. He hasn't played hockey. I think downgrading for injuries/illness is dumb, unless its something you are pretty sure will effect their long-term career. Vilardi is the player I'd point to as to why it's dumb. Talent usually doesn't go away because you are on the sidelines. Using his first two post-draft seasons, he was a top 10 re-draft caliber of player from the 2017 draft. Will Hayton be better than that?

 

[Leafs87]

“Having a coming out party at the world juniors”. It is a very useless tournament in the grand scheme of things tbh. Rarely means much toward the future success or failure of a player.

Let’s forget everything Byfield has done up until now since Tim had a good tournament while Byfield didn’t play. Stutzle wouldn’t make team canada either fwiw and he wouldn’t of played in the tournament either

 

[EXTRAS]

“Having a coming out party at the world juniors”. It is a very useless tournament in the grand scheme of things tbh. Rarely means much toward the future success or failure of a player.

Let’s forget everything Byfield has done up until now since Tim had a good tournament while Byfield didn’t play. Stutzle wouldn’t make team canada either fwiw and he wouldn’t of played in the tournament either

Byfield did make team Canada, and did play...just not very well.

 

[Michoulicious]

I'm on the Stützle train.

 

[tony d]

Byfield.

 

[teravaineSAROS]

Right now I'm picking Byfield. Prospects playing in Europe against men do tend to get heavily underrated though and Stutzle could end up being the 2nd best player of the draft (not seeing anybody dethrone Lafreniere who's just insane).

 

[RedHawkDown]

“Having a coming out party at the world juniors”. It is a very useless tournament in the grand scheme of things tbh. Rarely means much toward the future success or failure of a player.

Let’s forget everything Byfield has done up until now since Tim had a good tournament while Byfield didn’t play. Stutzle wouldn’t make team canada either fwiw and he wouldn’t of played in the tournament either

The fact that you think Byfield didn’t even make the team is a pretty sad indicator of his performance.

still love the kid but Stutzle definitely made up some ground in that tourney

 

[WingsMJN2965]

The fact that you think Byfield didn’t even make the team is a pretty sad indicator of his performance.

still love the kid but Stutzle definitely made up some ground in that tourney

Meh. People forget that Byfield is only two months older than Lafreniere was last year when he was positioned the same (4th line) and produced the same.

 

[ricky0034]

Meh. People forget that Byfield is only two months older than Lafreniere was last year when he was positioned the same (4th line) and produced the same.

didn't Byfield start on the 2nd line and play his way down the lineup though?

big difference between that and never being given much of a chance to begin with

 

[teravaineSAROS]

“Having a coming out party at the world juniors”. It is a very useless tournament in the grand scheme of things tbh. Rarely means much toward the future success or failure of a player.

Let’s forget everything Byfield has done up until now since Tim had a good tournament while Byfield didn’t play. Stutzle wouldn’t make team canada either fwiw and he wouldn’t of played in the tournament either

It's definitely an important tournament. It doesn't make or break most players but it's a great chance to gauge how good players from various leagues seem to be compared to others their age. It's difficult to compare players like Stutzle and Holtz when Holtz plays in a league with higher competition for example.

 

[avsfan09]

Byfield did make team Canada, and did play...just not very well.

Remember Mackinnon's Wjc? Drouin was great and Mack did almost nothing. It's cliche but it's a short sample size.

 

[bert]

Both are awesome, you cant go wrong with either. Trying to predict who will be better at this point of their development is an impossible task and no one really knows. Gun to my head I take Byfield, if he hits his ceiling he will be the best player in the draft I am just not sure if thats going to happen. As a Sens fan I am praying we end up with one of these two guys, wouldnt be upset with Lafreniere or Raymond either. Just hoping for one of the big 4.

 

[David Lunch]

I’m no prospects expert but not ignorant either, and as a Kings fan, I REALLY hope they take Byfield. This kid being mentored by Kopitar for a few years... wow, the sky is the limit.

 

[Northern Avs Fan]

Remember Mackinnon's Wjc? Drouin was great and Mack did almost nothing. It's cliche but it's a short sample size.

Byfeild and MacK were both super young for their draft year too.

 

[Jason MacIsaac]

I still prefer Stutzle but a lot can change before a fall draft. Byfield not being dynamic enough could lead to him playing in the CHL to his detriment.

 

[Rorschach]

We need to close this poll and open a new one. Most of this content is from January.

 

[Conspiracy Theorist]

Stutzle. I think Byfield has most bust potential.

 

[stl76]

I f***ing hate it when old polls get bumped like this. Booo @David Lunch booo!

 

[Dr Salt]

Stutzle. I think Byfield has most bust potential.

I don't really see how. I guess his only weakness is not using his size enough, but it doesn't change that he good hands, a top-level iq and an impressive 200 foot game.

 

[Sting]

I don't really see how. I guess his only weakness is not using his size enough, but it doesn't change that he good hands, a top-level iq and an impressive 200 foot game.

If Stutzle and Lafreniere are a 9/10 in terms of being creative/dynamic offensively, I'd put Byfield at about a 7. I think there are serious questions about whether he can be an elite performer in the NHL when he doesn't have as massive a size difference. One of my criticisms about his skating would also be he's more straight line whereas Stutzle can pivot and maneuver much more freely.

It's why I hope Stutzle drops to #3...I think he's a safer bet to become an elite talent.

 

[Merrrlin]

What I've read about Byfield's skill and size combination has me drooling.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I think of the top 3 Stutzle has the highest offensive potential of the 3 but is the most raw and needs the most development. For that reason I'd take Stutzle over Byfield, but Laf is more refined already and is a much safer bet so he goes over Stutzle for me.

 

[bukwas]

Gotta love the big centers.

 

[Dr Salt]

If Stutzle and Lafreniere are a 9/10 in terms of being creative/dynamic offensively, I'd put Byfield at about a 7. I think there are serious questions about whether he can be an elite performer in the NHL when he doesn't have as massive a size difference. One of my criticisms about his skating would also be he's more straight line whereas Stutzle can pivot and maneuver much more freely.

It's why I hope Stutzle drops to #3...I think he's a safer bet to become an elite talent.

Stützle is not Laf tier offense, he's great but that's just hyperbole at that point.

 

[Sting]

Stützle is not Laf tier offense, he's great but that's just hyperbole at that point.

Different styles. I think Stutzle has a lot of work to do on his shot and Laf has the edge there. Playmaking they're comparable.