Thoughts on Bob Hartley

[PricerStopDaPuck]

How do you Flames fans feel about Hartley? Two years ago him and Therrien were considered two of the best options. Long story short most Habs fans hate Therrien now, so I'm wondering how Hartley would've been.

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[Anglesmith]

Well you no like da one ting I say about like Artley is like you doan need to like worry about da effort from da team like any time. He can like get da boys playing ard an you no like wen dat happen like its anyone's game.

 

[Mr Lebowski]

I really like Hartley. You always here stories of how hard he works. 1st one there, last to leave. He is a little hard on youngsters but it usually works. The one problem is he never keeps lines for more than 3 games

 

[MuffinMerc]

Give credit where credit is due: he has everyone buying into the system this season (unlike last season). Questionable roster moves when players are struggling, at least earlier on. He's mellowed out now.

I still expect him to be gone next season. He was Feaster's guy, and a new GM will probably have his own coach in mind.

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

Wizard.

 

[PricerStopDaPuck]

Every time I watch the Flames there compete level is almost always higher then the other teams.

 

[Anglesmith]

Best moment of the season so far:

 

[Skobel24]

I don't mind him. He's getting the best out of the young guys, but I wish he played a more balanced style game, or defensive. I've never been fond of the offensive systems.

 

[Anglesmith]

I don't mind him. He's getting the best out of the young guys, but I wish he played a more balanced style game, or defensive. I've never been fond of the offensive systems.

Since the beginning of the season, he's built a really impressive defensive structure into this team. That stretch of games where we got shutout 4 out of 5 games, most of those games we gave up only 1 or 2. I've definitely noticed an improvement in the defensive game since the beginning of the year.

 

[Guido Sarducci]

I didn't like the hire but he has really won me over. The reason why the Flames are in 26th place is because they have vastly over achieved. And a lot of that is on Hartley.

Hard working, tough, exiting hockey for the most part. I can see the Flames starting to become the team that I want them to be. A teams that other teams hate to play against. Give him at least one more year.

 

[MonahanTheMan]

Our players would run through a brick wall for Hartley. Got to admire that.

 

[Calculon]

It's hard to find coaches that players will consistently work hard for. He's been particularly effective since Feaster was fired.

Well, aside from that stretch of seven or so games where they were shutout in five of them.

 

[Unlimited Chequing]

I liked him even when things were looking dismal last season. This year's team looks even worse on paper and somehow he's gotten everyone buying into his system and games are still exciting to watch.

I hope he's kept on board. I'd like to see what he can do with a half decent team.

 

[Mr Lebowski]

Does anyone have the 2013 yearbook Flames book thing. Had a great article about Hartley and his style

 

[Ace Rimmer]

Hartley broke the Canucks, he gets a gold star for that in my books.

I've been pleasantly surprised with him. Everyone seems to buy into his style, and I'm not so sure Burke (or the new GM) would so quickly replace him.

 

[Bosnian Beast]

Agreed with Stewie. Burke said he would let him at least finish the season, but I think if Burke considers the on ice results (in terms of players work ethic, the system, etc), Hartley & co. will stay on beyond the off season, new GM or not.

 

[HAKAN LOOB]

I think whoever the new GM is, they'll probably think awfully hard about keeping Hartley. Hartley not only really changed the team's work ethic around, but also how the media views the Flames. You usually hear as many positive comments about the Flames in one National broadcast game, then you would in two or three seasons.

There's even precedent what with Murray in Buffalo offering Ted Nolan an extension.

 

[Sparky93]

Think he'll be around for another year but I wouldn't want him coaching a contending team. Really no system, everybody up and everybody back. He has made watching the rebuild entertaining but the team is worse overall, even before Iggy, Jbow and Kipper were gone.

 

[Mr Lebowski]

I'd like to see Hartley with a contending team. At least for one year. He deserves a chance

 

[Pirate King Luffy]

Hartley will stick around as long as there are results. Just like every coach really.

 

[MonahanTheMan]

I'd like to see Hartley with a contending team. At leats for one year. He deserves a chance

That team was called the 2000-01 Colorado Avalanche

 

[Bounces R Way]

He has done very well, last season not withstanding, the Flames are no longer a country club. The open style system is great to watch after 3 seasons of lose by one goal Sutter hockey. Hope he's here next year, he and Burke have the team trending positively(at least among fans) for the first time in a while.

 

[MarkGio]

At first I was pissed off at Hartely for some of his favoritism (ie, Berra + Colborne). Looking at the numbers, he's developing our young players perfectly.

Stajan, Jones, Glencross, Giordano, and Brodie are playing against the toughest opposition players. They're also getting mostly defensive zone starts. Next you have Cammy, Backlund, Galiardi, Stempniak, SMid, Butler, and Bouma.

Whereas Monahan, Baertschi, Colborne, Wideman, Russel, Hudler and Byron are getting the easy roles - consistng of offensive zone starts against weak competitors. Then you look at who's getting the most ice time. The guys playig against tough competitors are obviously rewarded (except Russel, Wideman, and Hudler are eating a lot of minutes), whereas the Monahan and Colborne are being managed very well with healthy minutes for rookie guys.

What else has he done?

The Flames are 25th in GA/G, while being 29th in Goals per game. The GA/G is remarkable since our goalies were pretty much rookies themselves. And the goals for seem too low give the scoring chances we see on the ice. The Flames don't shoot the puck though. They're ranked 28th in shots for amongst all teams. However, they're ranked the 10th best team in the league for Shots against.

A lot of 26th in Power Play %, while being 20th in PK%. We're ranked 5th among all teams in blocked shots, while being 22nd in hits. We're still crappy in face-offs, since FLames are ranked 29th. But we improved in shoot-outs and are now ranked 14th. The Flames are also ranked 14th in reported man-games lost (injuries).



References:

http://www.mangameslost.com/nhl-man-games-lost-chip-tmitt-march-4-2014/
http://www.nhl.com/ice/teamstats.ht...shootoutGamesWon&viewName=shootoutTeamSummary
http://www.hockeyabstract.com/playerusagecharts

 

[InfinityIggy]

I am a fan, has the players playing hard, they buy into the system and we get some good offense (most nights). I see no reason to replace him.

 

[StreakingRed]

Big fan of Hartley.