Thomas Pock

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    Can anyone give me a full scouting report of this defenseman? I was looking over the Rangers prospect page but he don't seem to be there...help me please.
     
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    Knowing that he was converted from forward to defense in college, he is exactly what you would expect. He is decently sized. He is all about offense on defense. He played 6 games for the Rangers at the end of the season and was pretty impressive from my view. He picked up something like 4-5 pts in those 6 games. He has the ability to rush the puck, pass it and shoot it. He was extremely calm and poised for someone that was in college the day before or week before. Being offensively gifted and of average size, he is pretty smart in his own zone. He used his stick when he needed it and didnt have to use brute force that he didnt have, to defend. He has a good shot from the point that picked him up a couple of assists. If i remember correctly, Pock scored his 1st goal from a lazer wrister that the goalie( I forget who) lazily let in. I'd say he'll be a 3rd-4th, 2nd pairing defenseman that will be a power play specialist.
     
  3. AG9NK35DT8*

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    well more of a 2-3 d man in my opinion, and with everythig u just said about him which is 100% true he sounds more like a 2-3 dman than a 3or 4

    a good comparison is probably darryl sydor, just pock has more offensive capabilities. NYR looks to be ok with tyutin and pock in the lineup for the future, with the like of jake taylor and david liffiton in hrtfd this year nyr should have one hell of a defensive lineup 2- 3 years down the road.
     
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    Hes an offensive defensmen that isnt huge, but uses his body well and is responsible in his own zone. I dont remember his slap shot but he has a beaming wrister. Like he said, he is posied, calm and picks the right times to lead a rush. He distrubtes the puck well and he never holds on to the puck to long. Hes a above average skater. He just needs to bulk up a little but hes not thin, just average I guess is the correct word. He had 2 goals 2 assists in 6 games with no preperation. He decided to sign with the Rangers and that day drove his car to NY suited up and played - and scored. When asked who was standing out at the development camp Dwight Helminen said Pock looked the best.
     
  5. AG9NK35DT8*

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    first off he is 6'2 " and 210 lbs which is not to small and bulk up how much more? that is fine i mean 215 the most, doont want him to be to big, we should want him to be able top be very agile like he is now.

    " When asked who was standing out at the development camp Dwight Helminen said Pock looked the best"
    :yo: :yo: awesome man , sather did one thing righhjt this kid is the real eal man, same for tyutin
     
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    He did not look that big, the Rangers like to exaggerate on their listings.
     
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    Rangers like to add an inch on guys. He's 6'1".
     
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    Pock is very mature for his age. He has excellent hockey awareness and good poise and positioning. I think he needs to develop his game a lot more (strength, skating, defense). He's a very brainy hockey player and he's got eyes in the back of head. I think many NYR fans are jumping the gun with him though. I expect Bryce Lampman or Jason Strudwick to make it out of training camp. Pock will do well to develop at the AHL level. I think he has a bright future as a 40p 3rd or 4th d-man.
     
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    tough to say for sure if he'll make the rangers next year (assuming there's a season). he only played in 6 games...he didn't look like he was in over his head or anything but i think it's a little hard to project for sure where he's at in only 6 games. the rangers also seemed to hint at the end of last season that they'd like to see him in the AHL, but i imagine a lot depends on what he shows them before next season. i dunno about saying lampman or strudwick will be in over him...if lampman outplays him, sure...but i get the feeling strudwick isn't going to be a regular for the rangers, at least not on the blueline (he can play some forward too). but i don't think lampman really has a big enough edge (if at all) over pock at this point to be sure he'd beat pock out for a roster spot. it'll likely be decided in training camp.

    but other people here summed it up pretty good...he's an offensive defenseman, good instincts, good smarts, good skills...his forward skating is really good, NHL caliber for sure...real fast. but he's mentioned he needs to work on his backward skating still and some of the footwork that comes with being a defenseman. he's only been playing D for 2 years (converted forward) so he's still learning the ropes a little...but i was impressed with his dedication to the defensive part of the game as well. i thought he'd be like an all offense no defense guy...but he worked hard to do his defensive duties too. probably won't ever be really great at it but i think he could be average defensively with very good offensive skills.
     
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    Yeah. Well, I know Pock will be more successful than Lampmaqn ultimately. Like you said, it'll be decided in training camp. Lampman has been a regular in training camp the last couple years, and they always speak highly of him. He's a STRONG player and he's very defensively sound (which gives him an edge over Pock). He's a consistent hard worker, although he's definitely a boring player. Pock surely has more skill, but I don't know too many kids who've jumped from NCAA right into the NHL.
     
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    The only thing with Lampman and Nycolat (just another guy who could make the camp), but did they not both look like they were out of sorts. I know Nycolat really blew it playing with Leetch for a few games and I'm pretty sure I remember Lampman's game being frowned on. If Pock is having as good of a development camp as Helminen is reporting then I don't doubt Pock has a spot to lose, same with Kondratiev and Tjutin
     
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    last year in camp, lampman was one of the best dmen overall and he had a spot locked up when he blew out his shoulder...if it wasn't for the injury he would have been in the nhl on opening night. so you definitely can't rule him out...

    and while pock looked pretty good in his 6 games considering he was just thrown into the fire...he can still benefit greatly from playing in hartford on their top pair as the top pp guy. and we can't forget that he's only been playing defense for 2 years or so, so it can't hurt to be patient and let him continue to learn that side of the game...
     
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    "lampman was one of the best dmen overall and he had a spot locked up when he blew out his shoulder...if it wasn't for the injury he would have been in the nhl on opening night. so you definitely can't rule him out..."

    Same thing happen to Lundmark. Lead the team in scoring. We all know how that worked. :rolleyes
     
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    well...lampman started out fine in his stint with the rangers but then started falling off...thats' what i remember, i think even JD commented on it (could be wrong about that though.) so i don't think lampman really has an edge when it comes to the coaches decision yet. and i'm not even sure lampman has completely settled down in the AHL and really got his defensive game down...
     
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