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"The top-6 is stacked for a reason" can you really not read? It's right there in the quoted post....
"The team" is different from "the top 6". And it's an important distinction.
"The top-6 is stacked for a reason" can you really not read? It's right there in the quoted post....
Saying anything about this team being "Stacked" is really stupid..."The team" is different from "the top 6". And it's an important distinction.
Yeah our top 6 with Kessel and Hornqvist was better. More high end skill and more down n dirty.
Our current top 6 is uh...faster.
And the bottom six is as bad as it’s been since 2014-15 when they made the playoffs in the very last game.
Just because you don't agree doesn't mean it's stupid. It's pretty much a consensus that this is one of the best top 6's we've had in this era.Saying anything about this team being "Stacked" is really stupid...
Just because you don't agree doesn't mean it's stupid. It's pretty much a consensus that this is one of the best top 6's we've had in this era.
It's kinda funny that you and I stand with opposing viewpoints. Im positive and optimistic about the Penguins this year and I'm fine with JR and Sullivan. Not really feeling it with the Steelers (you already read my view points in the other thread). Yet you are completely opposite to that view. Thought I'd point it out.
@Andy99 has copyrights on all posts ending with ellipsis.Saying anything about this team being "Stacked" is really stupid...
Gonna change my name to Starvamania to really be the yin to your yang
You must have pretty high standards then..........
Hags broke his leg in 2016/17 but still was going at a 30 point pace and his advanced stats with Malkin were pretty awesome (much better than Geno away from him).
Line Stats - Natural Stat Trick
Carl Hagelin - Summary - Natural Stat Trick
Hornqvist had 44 points in 70 games, that’s a 52 point pace. Great advanced stats too
Patric Hornqvist - Summary - Natural Stat Trick
And they both especially Hagelin were pretty meh in the playoffs.
We essentially downgraded our top six to add Hagelin and Hornqvist who had been third liners in the playoffs.
This year we have Zucker who is much more proven then Jake was heading into 17-18. And Kapanen is a young 40 pt guy instead of a 30 pt guy like Hags who disappears half the time.
CONTEXT
Hagelin again had a broken leg that he was still playing through in playoffs. Hornqvist a broken hand in the last 2 rounds who still had 9 points in 19 games including the one that cliched the cup.
I’m not trying to diminish what we have now for a top 6. It’s very good, although we don’t know how Kapanen will go and we are assuming lines, Sheary is still out there
In terms of Hagelin disappearing. Sure his production is pretty average for a guy in a top 6 role but and it’s a big but (I cannot lie ), he made Malkin better over his time here and the better Malkin is the less Ron has to complain about him (probably not )
A GF% of 62.26% and a xGF% of 57.74% over a 3 year period is freaking great (Malkin 50 & 52 without)
I mean, I get it Hagelin and Malkin were analytically fancy, but it contributed to shit when it really matter.
That’s it... discuss.
They actually didn’t really play too much together in the playoffs and a majority of the time one of them was playing with a significant injury.
Yeah? Well, yo momma.Hags isn’t a top six winger and was never in his career tbh.
I miss Hagelin.CONTEXT
Hagelin again had a broken leg that he was still playing through in playoffs. Hornqvist a broken hand in the last 2 rounds who still had 9 points in 19 games including the one that cliched the cup.
I’m not trying to diminish what we have now for a top 6. It’s very good, although we don’t know how Kapanen will go and we are assuming lines, Sheary is still out there
In terms of Hagelin disappearing. Sure his production is pretty average for a guy in a top 6 role but and it’s a big but (I cannot lie ), he made Malkin better over his time here and the better Malkin is the less Ron has to complain about him (probably not )
A GF% of 62.26% and a xGF% of 57.74% over a 3 year period is freaking great (Malkin 50 & 52 without)
My hope for this season is that JR doesn't trade the 2022 first. I don't think the wheels fall of this year, but they will soon and I don't want to miss out on the inevitable top 5 pick that results.
Just because you don't agree doesn't mean it's stupid. It's pretty much a consensus that this is one of the best top 6's we've had in this era.
In the playoffs?Just a heads up that Malkin had the same P/GP as MacKinnon last year.