The Toronto Maple Leafs are the Chicago Cubs

[leafsfan5]

Or the the New York Knicks.

think this one makes sense
Both have superstars (Kessel and anthony)that are offensive beasts. Both are the most valuable franchises in their sports and lastly both suck

 

[HamiltonNHL]

City of Chicago had:

Chicago Bulls (Jordan era)
Chicago Bears (Mike Ditka era)
Chicago Cubs (OK I get it)
Chicago White Sox (Recent World Series in 2005 within last decade)
Chicago Blackhawks (Toews and Kane era) present

Not bad at all man.

City of Toronto:

Leafs
Raptors
Jays
Argos ya whatever....


Not the same at all. NOT AT ALL!

Jays won back to back World Series

 

[leafstilldeath*]

Jays won back to back World Series

1992 and 1993

too long ago

I want more DAMN IT!

 

[HamiltonNHL]

I want another hockey team in the GTA.
Screw the Leafs.
Screw Las Vegas

 

[SeaOfBlue]

I actually think we are the Cowboys... We suck at both winning and losing #8-8_Nation right?

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Jays won back to back World Series

Raptors look pretty good also. Two good seasons in a row, one can hope that all of the effort MLSE put towards the Raptors is going to pay off.

 

[Giuseppe Sallo]

MLSE is the problem. Bunch of noobs running these teams tithe ground, they do a better job marketing than fielding a winner?

I think Lewiekechas done a decent job hiring Bezbatchenko & Ujiri. Bezzy looks like a solid GM, he is trying to build a winner.

 

[leafs in five]

think this one makes sense
Both have superstars (Kessel and anthony)that are offensive beasts. Both are the most valuable franchises in their sports and lastly both suck

they also both had a weird anomalous playoff berth/mini run that caused everyone in their front office to lose their minds (Clarkson signing, Bargnani trade)

 

[67Cup]

One of the great names in sports belonged to the ace of the staff of the Cubs when they last won the World Series, Mordecai "Three Fingers" Brown.

 

[nsleaf]

Why so hard on the cubs? At least they are lovable. Leafs-not so much!

 

[Erdinger]

The Leafs are in a league of their own when it comes to persistently sucking.

Detroit Lions are insulted with that statement

 

[Leaf Army]

The Cubs and the Leafs situations aren't comparable. The Cubs have won two World Series which is 15th on the All-Time list.

Toronto has won 13 Stanley Cups which is 2nd on the All-Time list.

 

[hisgirlfriday]

I'm not saying were not gonna win a playoff game for another 11 years like the Cubs but this is getting a littlescary.

Chicago Cubs

2003 - Probably didn't deserve to be in the playoffs, only won 88 games and got in in a weak division. Up by 3 runs late in an elimination game that would have been a big upset. They choke away the 3-run lead, but management uses the sample size to determine they're contenders and buyers.

2004 - All looks fine. Cubs go after Derrek Lee, Nomar Garciaparra and Greg Maddux for their upcoming playoff run. Safely in a playoff spot, they choke away the season with three weeks left, only win five of their last 16 and miss the playoffs.

2005 - Team is in no-man's land. Streaky, treading water but not a playoff team

Toronto Maple Leafs (ten years later)

2013 - Probably wasn't a playoff team, only a half-season, could load up on toughness because of a shortened schedule, could rely on good sh% and save% a little more than most years. Up 3 goals in an elimination game that would have been a big upset. They choke away the 3-goal lead, but management uses the sample size to determine they're contenders and buyers.

2014 - All looks fine, Leafs go after Dave Bolland and David Clarkson for their upcoming playoff run. Safely in a playoff spot, they choke away the season with three weeks left, only win three of their last 16 and miss the playoffs.

2015 - Team is in no-man's land. Streaky, treading water but not a playoff team

Sprinkle a little anti-analytics in there, compare Dusty Baker to Randy Carlyle and you're set.

Is this getting a little weird?

Sadly, DownGoesBrown called it

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/torontos-game-7-gut-punch/

In that case, congrats on winning your division (but getting swept in the 1st round) in 2017 and 2018.

 

[Wilbur*]

No, the Leafs are the Knicks.

James Dolan = Rogers/Bell/Tananbaum (dysfunctional, meddling ownership)
Melo = Kessel
And a history of trading their 1st round picks

 

[KapG]

The Cubs and the Leafs situations aren't comparable. The Cubs have won two World Series which is 15th on the All-Time list.

Toronto has won 13 Stanley Cups which is 2nd on the All-Time list.

Uhhhh, we haven't won anything substantial since 1967, not to mention those cups all came when there was what, 6 teams in the league? Bravo Toronto. Bravo!!!!

 

[Leaf Army]

Uhhhh, we haven't won anything substantial since 1967, not to mention those cups all came when there was what, 6 teams in the league? Bravo Toronto. Bravo!!!!

And the Cubs haven't won since 1908.

The fact that there are 30 teams now means the average team will only win one Cup every 30 years. There are plenty of teams in the NHL that are in the midst of their own 47 year drought right now. They just haven't been around long enough to get there yet.

The Canucks and Blues have been around since the beginning of expansion too and have never won anything. Don't hear anyone chanting 1967 at the Blues games.

 

[Mess]

The Cubs and the Leafs situations aren't comparable. The Cubs have won two World Series which is 15th on the All-Time list.

Toronto has won 13 Stanley Cups which is 2nd on the All-Time list.

That is true however all of Leafs Cups did come when you are talking 1 in 6 chances of winning it all (pre-expansion 1967) due to limited teams and where 4 of 6 teams (67%) made the playoffs.

So you needed to beat out only 2 teams to have a 67% chance of success by winning 8 playoff games.

Baseball doesn't afford those odds to compare championships won across sports. IMO

So isn't championship post 1967 (in hockey) where today you have 30 teams each sport evening the odds of comparison?

 

[Leaf Army]

That is true however all of Leafs Cups did come when you are talking 1 in 6 chances of winning it all (pre-expansion 1967) due to limited teams and where 4 of 6 teams (67%) made the playoffs.

So you needed to beat out only 2 teams to have a 67% chance of success by winning 8 playoff games.

Baseball doesn't afford those odds to compare championships won across sports. IMO

So isn't championship post 1967 (in hockey) where today you have 30 teams each sport evening the odds of comparison?

You're definitely have a good point.

But the fact remains the Leafs are the second winningest franchise in NHL history. The Cubs aren't close. So I still don't think it's a good comparison.