The Simmonds trade was truly awful

[Wayne Primeau]

What was Nashville thinking? Giving up 24-year-old Ryan Hartman and a 4th for a 30-year-old rental Wayne Simmonds never made any sense to begin with, and then Simmonds proceeded to score one goal in nineteen games.

Just a brutal trade, one of the worst I can remember. Nashville basically gave away Hartman for free.

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[Rolo]

What was Nashville thinking? Giving up 24-year-old Ryan Hartman and a 4th for a 30-year-old rental Wayne Simmonds never made any sense to begin with, and then Simmonds proceeded to score one goal in nineteen games.

Just a brutal trade, one of the worst I can remember. Nashville basically gave away Hartman for free.

And they paid a 1st + Edjsell (bust seems like) for Hartman.

So basically a 1st + 4th + Edjsell for Simmonds

 

[King Weber]

wasn't a great one but lets not act like this is some highway robbery. Hartman's a solid bottom 6 guy but nothing more, and we likely wouldn't have had room to re-sign him anyways.

 

[serp]

I don't think the price was that high though . Don't think Hartman is that great either just younger. Simmonds already looked pretty finished in Philly and was very reliant on a good PP to score. Well tough luck he got traded to the worst PP in the league and as a netfront guy he can't fix whats wrong with that PP .

 

[McRpro]

The Simmonds signing will be much worse.

 

[tiburon12]

Simmonds looked done all season. He was the big trade target that most fan bases flagged as "please, GM, don't trade for him!"

 

[ColbyChaos]

And they paid a 1st + Edjsell (bust seems like) for Hartman.

So basically a 1st + 4th + Edjsell for Simmonds

Beaudin (1st) + Kurashev (4th) + Edjsell for Simmonds and Spencer Stastney (5th)

 

[Ivan13]

David Poile is low-key one of the worst trading GMs there is. If it wasn't for the stupidity of Montreal and GMGM his track record would be flat out horrible.

 

[mikeyp24]

I get being a fan and upset a move didnt work out but in reality it was a low risk high reward type deal. You have to think of whonwas more likely to have a more impactful playoff appearance, 24yo Hartman who you guys had a year and likely werent keeping after this year do to room and not producing enough to be kept or Simmonds who has been around a long time and in a 7 game series has been talented enough to be a big factor even if its just 1 play game 5 late in the paint making a key screen. Anyone around hockey would tell you it isnt likely he is a star player anymore but he has a better chance to give you those key minutes then the kid Hartman. And the 4th sucks to give up but you can always get back picks or move up for other prospects if you need too. If you want to be mad at a move maybe the original move the 1st for hartman... was that worth it last year?

The Simmonds move though was just a smart hockey trade that in the end didnt pay out huge dividends but didnt hurt them at all let alone cause any damage like this poat seems.

Honestly the trade that should be looked at as dumb or worst move in decades qould be the Ryan Johanson trade/the follow up signing at that price.

But honestly I dont blane your GM for the deal nor do I think it hurt or help in the long wrong. A literal nothing burger.

 

[serp]

Simmonds looked done all season. He was the big trade target that most fan bases flagged as "please, GM, don't trade for him!"

Yeah he was one of those hockey media darling targets that wasn't actually all that good. I remember Cody Ceci was pretty high on the "trade bait" list as well and i always thought oh dear god stay away when his name was mentioned..

 

[Bronson]

David Poile is low-key one of the worst trading GMs there is. If it wasn't for the stupidity of Montreal and GMGM his track record would be flat out horrible.

I've been thinking this for quite some time. The Jones for Johansen and the Girard+ for Turris trades too look awful right now.

 

[Seiza]

They probably would have been better off just playing Ejdsell instead.

 

[thelos]

Considering how weak their PP was most of the year I think it made sense to get Simmonds. Too bad he got hurt

 

[triggrman]

Simmons sucked but so does Hartman. Hartman was replaced by Rocco

 

[nothingbeatshockey]

Erat for Forsberg ...... you haven't lost all trades.

 

[Harry Kakalovich]

It's not like Hartman is so amazing. Most deadline deals end up underwhelming.

 

[Devilsfan118]

Talk about a guy killing his value going into a contract year.. jeez.

I wouldn't want anything to do with this guy on his next contract. Someone is still going to give him 6 x 5 I bet

 

[ZeroPucksGiven]

Talk about a guy killing his value going into a contract year.. jeez.

I wouldn't want anything to do with this guy on his next contract. Someone is still going to give him 6 x 5 I bet

Edmonton!

 

[Riddum]

hindsight 20/20

 

[Scotty Pucks]

I love Wayne-O. But it was time for the Flyers to move on.

Thanks for Hartman, anyway.

 

[MAHJ71]

IMO...

Preds got caught playing the waiting game. Probably had their hand in on a few other players that they didn't get... so then they felt like they HAD TO DO something and there Simmonds was.

Given who I root for, it comes as no surprise I don't mind what the Preds gave up for Simmonds/the move in general. With a team like theirs, how could you not try it?

Poile went for it, and sometimes it just doesn't work. It happens, the Preds will be fine. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[The Note]

The problem is less about trading Hartman+ 4th for Simmonds. It’s more about having just traded a 1st+ prospect for Hartman last year then giving him away for a non- effective rental this year. Just bad asset management.

 

[Viqsi]

I guess the Jackets doing pretty well means that the "omg those deadline deals are bad" crowd had to pick somebody else to scream at.

 

[tucker3434]

Getting big old slow guys for the playoffs is just an outdated strategy. It seems like these old school hockey GM’s are the very last to get the memo. Rocco Grimaldi ended up being their highest scoring forward.

Anyway, yes a series of bad trades there, but not awful. You can afford to kiss on one of those occasionally. If you throw away picks/young players too often, the post cup window period will be very painful.

 

[rocketdan9]

Did he even play??