The Real Team Canada

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  1. tml_hockey

    tml_hockey Registered User

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    I'm not very happy with the selection as I feel some people made the team with a helping bias from lowe and gretzky. ie. brewer, smith, doan, yzerman, Gagne all should not be on the team. Those players are not canada's best players let alone canada's best role players.



    My Team Canada

    1. Finesse & Scoring lineup - 1st PP Unit

    Iginla - Sakic - Tanguay - * Kariya

    2. Finesse & Fire Power lineup - 2nd PP Unit

    Heatly, Lemieux, St. Louis - * Nash

    3. Penalty Killing & Shut Down Line - PK unit 1

    Maltby, Draper, Richards - * Madden

    4. Crash The Net & Bang Line - PK unit 2

    Thornton, Primeau, Marleau - * Bertuzzi

    ********************************

    Defense:

    Niedermayer - Pronger
    Blake - Foote
    Regehr - Jovo

    Brewer, Redden**
    ********************************

    Goalie
    Brodeur, Belfour, Loungo


    Please tell me what you think of this lineup and who you would replace if any. I really think this is the team we should of selected.
     
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  2. Avery4Byng*

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    GREAT LINE UP!!!!!!!!! exactly the players i'd have



    just a question, but why is it that Hatcher can play in the world cup yet Bert can't?
     
  3. Heaton

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    Bertuzzi can play, Gretzky and co. thought it was a good idea to keep a good vibe and not invite him to be on the team. the world cup and nhl are totally seperate.
     
  4. tml_hockey

    tml_hockey Registered User

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    I think its more of a matter of team canada that bertuzzi isn't playing. Canada exec ie. gretzky and company have decided to 1. respect the nhl suspension. 2. decided the distraction is not worth the chemisty. 3. Canada can still win without him.

    In all respect. They know as well as we do, we would love to have him. I consider that a handicap for us.


    Why is hatcher allowed to play. Just read what i wrote about bertuzzi and reverse it for the americans in the negative.
     
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    If I picked the team this is how my lines would have looked.

    Iginla - Thornton - Bertuzzi
    Richards- Lecavalier - St. Louis
    Kariya - Sakic - Lemieux (Tanguay if Lemieix not healthy)
    Smyth - Primeau - Heatley

    Extras: Doan, Tanguay, and Nash

    Pronger - Jovanovski
    Blake - Foote
    Niedermayer - Stevens (Redden if Stevens not healthy)

    Extras: McCabe, Redden and Brewer


    Brodeur
    Belfour
    Luongo
     
  6. Mr. Canucklehead

    Mr. Canucklehead Kitimat Canuck

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    Hypothetically talking?

    Iginla-Sakic-Gagne
    Heatley-Lemieux-Bertuzzi
    St. Louis-Primeau-Smyth
    Draper-Maltby-Doan

    Pronger-Jovanovski
    Foote-Blake
    Niedermayer-Regehr/Brewer

    Brodeur
    Luongo
    Belfour/Theodore

    ~Canucklehead~
     
  7. wilka91*

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    mais quelle equipe de merde quand meme
     
  8. Higgy4

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    Are you saying that Hatcher's elbow to Lombardi is the same as the Bertuzzi hit on Steve Moore?

    I hope not.
     
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    Why not? Here's my lineup:

    Iginla - Sakic - Gagne
    Heatley - Thornton - St. Louis
    Richards - Lecavalier - Bertuzzi
    Smyth - Primeau - Doan

    Niedermayer - Pronger
    Blake - Jovonovski
    Brewer - Foote

    Brodeur
     
  10. Bertuzzi is suspended indefinately, while hatcher is suspended for 3 NHL games. Thats why.
     
  11. Avery4Byng*

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    Ya but bertuzzi has a chance of not being suspended OR being suspended. Either way it is the same as Hatcher because he will be suspended from the NHL during the world cup.

    Iginla - Sakic - Lemiuex
    Heatly - Thorton - Bert
    Smyth - Lecavlier - St. Louisss
    Doan - Primueau - Richards


    Blake - Jovo
    Pronger - Brewer
    Nedermyier - Foote
    Reghier

    3 goalies already named no contest
     
  12. What do people think of this lineup?

    Heatley-Sakic-Iginla
    Kariya-Lemieux-St. Louis
    Smyth-Thornton-Bertuzzi
    Yzerman-Draper-Primeau
    EXTRAS: Marleau, Lecavalier, Doan

    Pronger-Blake
    Niedermayer-Foote
    Jovanovski-Redden
    EXTRAS: Brewer, McCabe

    Brodeur
    Luongo
    EXTRAS: Belfour


    So in other words, the following alterations were made when you compare it to the real team (the alterations are to the right and in bold letters):

    Morrow ----> Bertuzzi
    Gagne ----> Kariya
    Richards ----> Lecavalier
    Maltby ----> Primeau
    Regehr ----> McCabe

    What do you all think?
     
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    Looks good for the most part, but I would keep Richards in over Lecavalier. Why? A lot of it has to do with attitude. Richards is a guy that's easy to get along with and very unselfish. Lecavalier strikes me as a selfish player who might disrupt the chemistry of the team. He needs a couple more years before he can be considered for this imo.

    Regehr deserves to be in it more than McCabe as well. I wouldn't change the defense.
     
  14. Canuck21t

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    Franchement, faux-tu être immature pour faire ce genre de commentaire?! Tu n'as pas d'autres choses plus importantes à faire que d'écrire des conneries?
     
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    Why do you people want Bertuzzi to be on the team? The guy is a disgrace to the game and to the country. With Canada's depth, we can win without him.
     
  16. Beakermania*

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    1) Yes
    2) Yes
    3) No, Richards is better, more points each of the last 3 years. also bolts are 20 something -0-2 this season when he scores a goal (playoffs and season, kinda weird stat don't know what it means
    4) Yes
    5) No, McCabe was awful in the playoffs, Regehr is better IMO. However i do like Aucoin or Bouwmeester better than Regehr.
     
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    Hatcher's suspension specifically says that he is suspended for the first 3 regular season games of the next season. It doesn't mention anything else. Hatcher won't be suspended from the NHL during the World Cup, because his suspension doesn't begin until the beginning of the regular season.
    Bertuzzi's suspension says he was suspended for the regular season and the playoffs and then indefinitely suspended until Bettman decides to let him back. Bertuzzi is suspended from the NHL during the World Cup, and thus ineligible to play (at this time), unless Bettman ends his suspension before the World Cup.

    http://www.tsn.ca/nhl/news_story.asp?ID=84641
     
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    tml_hockey Registered User

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    Listen folks. This is a discussion about Team Canada. Not bertuzzi vs hatcher. Please start another thread regarding this matter.
     
  19. wilka91*

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    Ben quoi, je dis ce qui est!

    Ils vont se faire déchirer :lol:
     
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    Avec le meilleurs gardiens et la meilleure défense du tournoi ben ouais :lol:
     
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    Here would be my lineup:

    Forward Line 1: Momentum, bang and scoring line
    Iginla - Thornton - Bertuzzi

    Forward Line 2: Big Guns, PP #1
    Heatley - Lecavalier - St. Louis

    Forward Line 3: Additional Firepower, stellar consistent play
    Nash - Sakic - Lemieux

    Forward Line 4: Grind, Defensive with touch, PK#1
    Gagne - Marleau - Smyth

    Extras: Draper, Maltby, and Kariya

    Defense Pair 1: Physical and offensive, PP#1
    Pronger - Jovanovski

    Defense Pair 2: Physical, defensive, big plays, PK#1
    Blake - Foote

    Defense Pair 3: Speed and offense, Niedermayer provides great leadership
    Niedermayer - Brewer

    Extras: McCabe, Redden and Bouwmeester

    Goalie 1: IMO best Goalie in the world right now, dominates like no other right now
    Luongo

    Goalie 2: Historic Career, Big game experience
    Brodeur

    Goalie 3: Briliant career, coming of superb playoffs
    Belfour
     
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    Meilleure défense? Hum ... c'est encore possible. Par contre en ce qui concerne les gardiens, non! La Russie fait bien mieux dans ce domaine, regarde les éliminatoires de la Coupe Stanley de 2004 mon ami :)
     
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    its all about chemistry. Yzerman, Draper, and Primeau IMO wouldn't make a very good checking line because they lack chemistry.

    The reason Maltby, Draper, and Doan are on the squad is because last year they created a lethal line.
     
  24. Burnaby_Joe*

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    Kariya Lecavalier Bertuzzi
    Tanguay Morrison Murray
    Daze Primeau Recchi
    Cooke Madden Nolan

    Stevens Morris
    McCabe MacInnis
    Stuart Bouwmeester

    Theodore
    Turco
    CuJo
     
  25. tml_hockey

    tml_hockey Registered User

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    Is this team canada A or B or C???

    What no sakic or iginla? lol

    Interesting
     
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