The Real Problem is...

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shortshorts

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Not our amateur scouting.

Okay, our draft didn't go according to plan, but it's a weak one - whatever. No one fell into our laps. Nothing we could have done.

The real problem is our pro scouting.

Is no one else extremely concerned at how bad our pro scouting has been over the years?

Ballard, Booth... now rumours of Bolland, Millers, Glass, Dorsett and Myers.

edit: Sbisa :facepalm:

Who the heck is in charge of our pro scouting?

Any one else care to comment on this stance?
 

Iridescent*

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Gillis made some trades based solely on advanced stats.

Benning is making trades based solely on some petty ideal of "If he dun grind in da corners, he dun be good"

Out of the frying pan
 

Vankiller Whale

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Our amateur scouting is terrible.

At least our pro scouting has gotten some things right lately, like Santorelli, Stanton, Higgins...
 

GCM

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What do you have against Dorsett? Seriously? Dorsett > late 3rd any day.

Don't talk about rumors, they could be complete fabrications. Wait till he signs someone to complain. I think Miller is fine, too.
 

CCF23

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I love you guys. Team sucks at scoring so they take the player with the best shot in the draft and soooo many people complain.

Hilarious.
 

TacitEndorsement

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I'm convinced more and more by the day that Gillis and Gilman are/were (get ready for hyperbole) two nerds who evaluated using advanced stats and were great at signing contracts. End of story. I think there was VERY little real talent evaluation done by those two. By all accounts talent evaluation is Benning's strongest suit. I'd like to trust him for now.
 

shortshorts

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Honestly people stop posting multiple threads on the same subject. Multiple complaint threads have already been locked. We don't need another.

I took some time away from my computer to digest the day. Didn't know if there was a similar thread.

I thought it would be a worthwhile conversation.
 

Virtanen2Horvat

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Wow Benning is upgrading our bottom six and getting picks at the same time to help with our future and this is the thanks he gets? You guys don't even know if he is gonna sign Bolland or whoever or not. Right now it is:

Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
??? - ??? - Kassian
Higgins - Bonino - Jensen
Matthias - Richardson - Dorsett


He just needs to sign two good guys in free agency and the team is set and then if he feels there needs to be some changes he has the TD to do that. Its not the end of the world.

Left Wing candidates: (Bolded is most likely)

Michalek
Cammalleri
Moulson
Vanek

Centers:

Stastny (Probably a maybe or no go)
Ribeiro (PHX says he has an attitude problem?)
Richards
Olli Jokinen
Legwand
Roy


Sedin - Sedin - Burrows
Cammalleri - Stastny - Kassian
Higgins - Bonino - Jensen
Matthias - Richardson - Dorsett

I really don't know what he would do for top six but I would imagine one of those guys get signed.
 
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MS

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I'm convinced more and more by the day that Gillis and Gilman are/were (get ready for hyperbole) two nerds who evaluated using advanced stats and were great at signing contracts. End of story. I think there was VERY little real talent evaluation done by those two. By all accounts talent evaluation is Benning's strongest suit. I'd like to trust him for now.

Pro scouting under Gillis was actually very strong.

They made two blown reads of note - Booth and Ballard. But every team has these - Detroit are wizards and look at the Stephen Weiss signing.

With no cap space whatsoever last year, their three small acquisitions of Santorelli/Stanton/Richardson were all great value pickups who greatly exceeded expectations.

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Benning, on the other hand, I'm terrified.
 

iFan

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Stastny wants north of 7 million and term **** that, just suck and tank next year, it's said to be a great draft.
 

Baby Pettersson

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Exactly. All I have seen is a majority of the fanbase whining. A lot of people personally thought Benning did well.

People just need to sit back and look at the big picture. We drafted 2 great prospects today. One of which I feel could become an Elite physical presence in this league. Benning is doing fine.
 
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