The powerplay - your solution

TT1

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PP solution: get players who can actually puck handle and make plays. You don't want guys like Pacioretty, Gallagher along the boards trying to make plays. Don't expect anything from Weber either, we need a good playmaker on the point like Radulov or Markov.

.. But if Radulov's on the point then we have no one on the boards who can generate anything.
 

expy

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Solution #1: SHOOT MORE
Solution #2: STOP TRYING TO FEED THE POINT
Solution #3: STOP PLAYING DUMP AND CHASE WHEN YOU CAN'T CHASE
 

Brainiac

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Solution #1: SHOOT MORE
Solution #2: STOP TRYING TO FEED THE POINT
Solution #3: STOP PLAYING DUMP AND CHASE WHEN YOU CAN'T CHASE

It's much less of a problem this year, but last year was downright pathetic because our only move was to feed the puck to Subban for a one-timer. Once it became predictable, teams adapted and our powerplay was neutralized. And people blamed Subban for that.

This year at least we see a little bit of work from the right board. It will probably be back on track when Galchenyuk is healthy.
 

expy

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The real problem is that they play as if they have the upper hand on the opposition, so they change the way they play on the PP.

When the other team is down a man, you don't have an advantage unless you play as though they're still 5 on 5.

They take way too much time trying to set up a breakout, to ultimately miss a pass in the D zone, or get it stolen right at the opposing blue line.
 

Habs Halifax

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Solution #1: SHOOT MORE
Solution #2: STOP TRYING TO FEED THE POINT
Solution #3: STOP PLAYING DUMP AND CHASE WHEN YOU CAN'T CHASE

You Nailed it! Habs need more shooters though. Weber's bomb is nice but they focus on it too much. Patch has a good shot but it not a play maker. Galchenyuk needs to be healthy as his shot is needed. Radulov should be the focus. And I agree with McCarron being used in front of the net.
 

Leon Lucius Black

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Clearly not personnel related. Weber is literally the best PP onetime option on point. Radulov's also shown to be great on powerplay. With poor coaching even Crosby/Malkin/Kessel/Letang would do poorly on PP (see Pens before coaching change)

How is it not personnel related?

Weber has the best slap shot in the league, but when Pacioretty/Gallagher/Plekanec and basically everyone but Radulov handle the puck like a grenade its impossible to get Weber set up for a one timer.

We are badly missing Markov/Galchenyuk and even Shaw who's been good on face-offs and gets to the front of the net.
 

Wats

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How is it not personnel related?

Weber has the best slap shot in the league, but when Pacioretty/Gallagher/Plekanec and basically everyone but Radulov handle the puck like a grenade its impossible to get Weber set up for a one timer.

We are badly missing Markov/Galchenyuk and even Shaw who's been good on face-offs and gets to the front of the net.

Powerplay was looking bad even with Markov and Galchenyuk. Earlier in the season they rarely have sustained pressure and seemingly score every time they got a chance or Weber got a shot off so the % looked good. Think back to Ducks game where the powerplay was looking awful but they scored 2 on neutral zone faceoff and a broken play.

We just have to look at opposition powerplays in the same game to see how bad the Habs powerplay, break-in, set up and set plays are.
 

Smokey Thompson

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Take Gallagher off the PP until he finds his groove again. Put McCarron infront of the net and tell him not to move. Try to get Radulov the puck on the right half wall so he can man the PP and find openings; no one else can pass like him aside from Galchenyuk. Have Lehkonen sneak in for the backdoor tap in. Have Weber open up for a one timer from the left point. Have Petry open at the right point so he can cycle with Rad.

Nothing fancy, just send one east-west pass and put it on net. Force the goalie to move and make sure that you have Big Mac causing havoc in the crease and ready for deflections.
 

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Maybe the solution is the injured center and the injured d-man: Galchenyuk & Markov.
 

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Mitchell has one of the better FO% on the team this season. He can win the draw back to Rads who dishes to Weber. Mac screening the goalie with Max off to the opposite side in front of the net for a loose puck.

Anything we can come up with will be better than what the Habs have come up with :laugh:

This has been a chronic problem for close to four years. Players have changed coaches have not. Time fir a coaching change.
 

antoniojr

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Our entries have been terrible, especially last night.
Forecheck was non-existent.
I only recall entering and holding the zone when Byron would carry and enter with speed.
 

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It's simple : they just need to keep high tempo and push harder!

As soon as they start the PP they play at a slower pace, which is exactly what they should not do if they want to take the real man advantage.
 

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It is one of the laziest most uninspired PP I have seen. Dump, try and retrieve, back to Weber... that is it. No traffic in front, very little passing. It's awful.

Why don't they park Big Mac or even Weber in front, just to shake things up?
 

HabsTown

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I don't think players are the problem (we're not a powerhouse but we have a good mix to at least have a decent PP).

The real factor, IMO, relies on the tactic deployed. Stop using the ''classic'' strategy of 2 D-men on the blue line, 1 in front of the net and 2 guys backdoor. It doesn't work for us.

Start using an umbrella scheme as it fits our good players' strength.

1st Unit

Point man : Weber (dropping bombs)
Left faceoff dot : Gallagher (rh shot)
Right faceoff dot : Paciorrety (lh shot)
Backdoor : Radulov (setting teammates)
Front of the net : Plekanec




2nd unit

Point man : Petry (dropping bombs)
Left faceoff dot : Lekhonen
Right faceoff dot : Markov (feeding teammates)
Backdoor : Shaw/Carr (this is where we see our lack of OFF. Could be Byron)
Front of the net : McCarron (for obvious reasons)
 

angry pirate

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Our powerplay somehow looked much better last night. Which says a lot considering it still wasn't very good. But it was actually better.

Danault takes the faceoff, but gets replaced by McCarron as soon as the puck comes out. Maybe try Radulov on the point again.

Lehkonen - Danault/McCarron - Pacioretty
Weber - Radulov


Playing it back to the D off the zone entry is good, but Gallagher has been dropping it too early. They need to wait an extra second for the high forward to disengage off the D, so they aren't fighting 50/50 for the puck. Take an extra stride or two, then drop it.
 

Burke the Legend

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Do we have anyone up front who can one-time??? Missing that threat from galvhenyuk neuters it so bad. Patches and radulov have decent shots but surprise writers coming off the half boards just isn't good enough for a PP.
 

Uncle Gary

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1. Win the faceoff
2. Keep possession of the puck
3. Don't make stupid passes
4. Don't take shots that won't lead to anything
5. Work on zone entries every practice, all practice
 

Kudo Shinichi

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The biggest problem with our powerplay is that we don't have forward that are good at passing the puck.
The only forwards that I would say are elite at passing are Desharnais, Galchenyuk and Radulov, and two of them are injured.
Patch, Gally, Byron, Lehkonen, Plekanec, etc. all have trouble making good passes on the pp and because of that we lose possession and have to go back in our own zone every time.
 

Spearmint Rhino

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It works if you come across the line at high speed and force the d back 5 steps. Doesn't work coming in slow.

Except your teammates have all had to check up at the line and are now flat footed so the puck carrier is going in alone and typically turns it over

I'd say watch the Jackets and copy what they do, they're not much more talented then us
 

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