The literal "off-side" rule in the official rulebook is confusing me...

Lorty

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After the event that occurred during the first game of the SCF, I was curious about the actual "off-side" rule of the NHL, and how it was written.


We all know that once a player has his back foot in the neutral zone OFF the ice, and the front foot in the offensive zone, then the player is "off-side", which means he can't gain possession in the neutral zone anymore.


But where is that segment in the rulebook? Where can we infer this?



The position of the player’s skates and not that of his stick shall be
the determining factor in all instances in deciding an off-side. A player
is off-side when both skates are completely over the leading edge of
the blue line involved in the play. [...]

First paragraph. Here, it's pretty simple : Once both skates are completely over the leading edge of the blue line, the player is offside. It doesn't mention the surface of the ice at all, just "over the line", as in beyond the line.


[...] A player is on-side when either of his skates are in contact with, or on his own side of the line, at the instant the puck completely crosses
the leading edge of the blue line regardless of the position of his stick.


Here, it's obvious : Your back skate/foot has to be on the surface of the ice, in the neutral zone, in order to be on-side... ONCE the puck crosses the leading edge. So what happens when the puck hasn't crossed yet? Is the player off-side? On-side?



However, a player actually controlling the puck who shall cross the
line ahead of the puck shall not be considered “off-side,” provided he
had possession and control of the puck prior to his skates crossing the
blue


Here, a player with the possession and control the puck can skate into the offensive zone ahead the puck... PRIOR to his skates (plurial) crossing the blue line. Again, no mention of the surface of the ice.




Following this rule, I can't find any definition of what is "both skates crossing the line". There's no statement at all that explains how your skates should be on all situations, it only talks about how your skates should be once the puck crosses the line in order to be on-side.


How do we interpret this rule if you have one foot off the ice in the neutral zone and one foot in the offensive zone, and GAIN possession in the neutral zone, so before the puck crosses the line?
 
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jw2

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So a guy is in the o-zone, the puck is not, and he then gains possession and crosses the line?
Offside.

If he has possession, his skates can cross the line prior to the puck.
 

kij

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Growing up playing hockey we were taught one skate must always touch the neutral zone to stay onside.

As for your question,

The rule about being in front of the puck and crossing the line is only acceptable when you have discernible possession. So either skating backward or carrying the puck behind you or in your feet. If you are in the zone and get a pass it is still offside.
 

Lorty

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So a guy is in the o-zone, the puck is not, and he then gains possession and crosses the line?
Offside.

If he has possession, his skates can cross the line prior to the puck.


Depends what you mean by "guy in the o-zone"


No matter where the puck is, does one foot in the offensive zone and one foot in the air (in the neutral zone) = offensive zone?


If yes, then that's the part that is extremely confusing in the rulebook. If you take the rulebook literally it's not that clear, at all. Yes, it talks about the skate being on the surface of the ice, but follows with "at the exact moment the puck crosses the line".
 

jw2

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Depends what you mean by "guy in the o-zone"


No matter where the puck is, does one foot in the offensive zone and one foot in the air (in the neutral zone) = offensive zone?


If yes, then that's the part that is extremely confusing in the rulebook. If you take the rulebook literally it's not that clear, at all. Yes, it talks about the skate being on the surface of the ice, but follows with "at the exact moment the puck crosses the line".

The guy is in the offensive zone. The puck is not.
- say it's a power play. Defensive team clears puck to neutral zone. The player does not clear offensive zone, gains control and brings the puck from the NZ to the OZ = offside.
Or, perhaps a 2 line pass where a players skates has already broken the plain, but he gains control of the puck (behind him) and carries it into the zone = off

Player skates up the puck from his own goal line, crosses the plain skating backwards (skates break plain prior to puck) = on

-where the puck is/possession always matters

- how is no skate in the NZ, "in the neutral zone"? That should not be a hard concept to grasp.
 

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