Speculation: The Julien dilemma
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GloryDaze4877
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Given this, and the fact that they would want to toss Therrien (who I despise) to the curb after leading MTL to the ECF's last year and the 2nd seed in the East (this season)...
Why would Clode want to go back there and coach?
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Patrice Krejci*
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While that probably would come back to bite us in the ass, because who are we kidding, it's called BRUINS. I feel like that shouldn't be a deciding factor for our future, we need to get better not worry about other teams getting better.
Hali33
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There will be a ton of interest in Julien if he becomes available. If the Habs fire Therrien, I can't say they won't be interested in Julien because he'll be the best coach available that can speak French. There's a history there whether or not it's for the better.
But the thing that is killing the Habs this season is the same thing that killed our team - lack of offense. I think they'll go with a more offensive minded coach if both teams making a coaching change.
But the thing that is killing the Habs this season is the same thing that killed our team - lack of offense. I think they'll go with a more offensive minded coach if both teams making a coaching change.
PurpleShamrock
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On that same note, why would anyone want to go there and coach? Seems like a pretty thankless job to me...
Jean_Jacket41
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ODAAT
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I`ll wager Claude winds up in San Jose if he goes anywhere
I`d like to see Claude coach a (fingers crossed) faster/skilled Bruins
Team often in top 5 with a slow-ish group over the years, be interesting to watch a quick B`s team
Therrien's not going anywhere, look at that roster and see how much better they would be with Julien, not much. As for the B's, it's time to move on from the Julien era, don't care where he goes.
Because it is. Nobody in Montreal pays any attention to any other sport- it is all Habs all the time. At least Toronto has the Blue Jays & the Raptors so they get some respite from the Maple Leafs' latest debacles.
I'm with you. With all his faults he is still better than anyone else available.
Many times you're better off with the devil you know than the one you don't know.
ODAAT
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Spanky185
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could he handle it? I think he cherishes his defense too much. There were times this year when the best chance the Bruins had of scoring would have been Rask skating up the ice.
skullguise
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The scary, and maybe a bit funny, part is that the Habs board is whining about MT for many similar things we've sometimes whined about w/r/t Clode: grinding style over offensive flair, playing the wrong players on wrong lines and at wrong times, too much defense-first, playing vets over the kids, etc.
I think Clode is way ahead of Therrien for coaching ability, but I wonder if this happened would they still be saying the same thing down the line....
I think Clode is way ahead of Therrien for coaching ability, but I wonder if this happened would they still be saying the same thing down the line....
PurpleShamrock
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If they hire from within (which seems most likely at this point), then I'm guessing he'll get another year. Of course, that's pure speculation on my part...
If I remember correctly, there was some buzz around the Expos in '94, when they looked like they had a pretty solid team. But the strike seemed to take the wind out of their sails, and the franchise never recovered.
pffffffffffffffffffttttttttttttttttttttt.............
"we want Babcock".
"Hes not French speaking"
"Oh yeah........****..............we want Claude"
"we want Babcock".
"Hes not French speaking"
"Oh yeah........****..............we want Claude"
Over the volcano
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Just have to wait until Chicago wins their Cup this year- then grab that assistant coach they have and let Claude move on to "greener" pastures.
How much better would the Habs do under Clode though? Clode is a better coach than MT, no doubt, but he needs a specific type of roster to succeed and I don't know that the Habs have it. They're faster than the Bruins but they're also smaller and less physical. Habs fans keep complaining about how Therrien plays a grinding, dump and chase, defensive oriented hockey which is killing their roster.
I do think their defense would look much better under Julien though, especially if they can resign Petry or bring in someone similar. They have a good defense and great puck-movers, something Julien loves and needs. Therrien isn't properly utilizing their defensive assets IMO. I just don't think their offense (Paccioretty, Gallagher and Galchenyuk is really all of it) would do that much better with Clode.
But to answer your question...yes we should keep this in mind when making a decision with about Clode. I'm not happy with Clode either but he is a very, very good coach. And unless Babcock becomes available and interested (unlikely) I really don't see a superior alternative. As long as our new GM (whoever it may be) talks to Clode about his choices (as in let's avoid Kelly and Talbot on the ice for 15 minutes a game) I think it might be okay.
I do think their defense would look much better under Julien though, especially if they can resign Petry or bring in someone similar. They have a good defense and great puck-movers, something Julien loves and needs. Therrien isn't properly utilizing their defensive assets IMO. I just don't think their offense (Paccioretty, Gallagher and Galchenyuk is really all of it) would do that much better with Clode.
But to answer your question...yes we should keep this in mind when making a decision with about Clode. I'm not happy with Clode either but he is a very, very good coach. And unless Babcock becomes available and interested (unlikely) I really don't see a superior alternative. As long as our new GM (whoever it may be) talks to Clode about his choices (as in let's avoid Kelly and Talbot on the ice for 15 minutes a game) I think it might be okay.
Mathews28
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NightmanCometh
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MT is basically a poor man's CJ... they have similar coaching styles, but CJ maintains the respect of his team while MT - so I've heard - does not. Big difference.
The only way I'd be cool with Julien in Montreal is if we've got Babcock behind our bench. Anything less and that'd basically be gut wrenching.
The only way I'd be cool with Julien in Montreal is if we've got Babcock behind our bench. Anything less and that'd basically be gut wrenching.
This is also exactly what you hear from Wings fans and Blackhawks fans when they complain about Babcock and Queneville.
Coincidental that these are 4 of the top coaches in the NHL?
riverhawkey91
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If we decided to go in another direction for coaching, wouldn't we trade Julien somewhere? I was under the impression that was allowable under the new CBA.
I'd say that would be a much better route to go as we could get some return as well as control where he ends up (obviously they would consult him, but forbidding Montreal would probably be a must).
I'd say that would be a much better route to go as we could get some return as well as control where he ends up (obviously they would consult him, but forbidding Montreal would probably be a must).
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