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Again, no one is saying that the success of the Jackets greatly depended on resigning D-Mac. But we're a worse team without him.
I'd rather have Gibbons and D'Amigo than D-Mac.
Again, no one is saying that the success of the Jackets greatly depended on resigning D-Mac. But we're a worse team without him.
I'd rather have Gibbons and D'Amigo than D-Mac.
I'd trade all that to have Moore back.
I'd trade all that to have Moore back.
I would have been right with you at the time of the trade, but Murray pretty much made me forget about Moore. And Prout, and Savard (can't believe I said that).
I think with Moore it's one of those things where the 'idea' of Moore is better than the reality of Moore. Kind of like Kris Russell...relatively speaking - I'm not saying they're equivalent.
Moore and Russell are pretty similar in how baffling their failure to break through has been. Both are excellent skaters, both seem to have the hockey IQ, and both have above average physical skills. And both just have not put it together despite quite a few chances.
Russell is 27 and still hasn't broken through; I'd have to believe he's unlikely to do so. Moore is somehow only 23, but considering how quickly someone with a much better track record (Del Zotto) got bounced out at the same age...
Maybe but Moore played as a regular for every game he was eligible for last year for the Eastern Conference champions. He's a lot bigger than Russell, and is still 23. I think it a bit early to call John Moore a bust. Frankly, he may end up being the guy we miss the most from that deal.
I always look back on these past posts with trepidation, but in this one I look like a friggin genius.
Actually, it's potentially 4 picks now. Jarmo took the 3rd he got from LA (Edmonton's #63) and traded down for #76 in 2014 and a 3rd rounder in 2015 (Detroit).
So, for posterity, I believe the current tally is now Brassard, Dorsett, Moore for:
Jerry D'Amigo
2014 3rd round pick: Elvis Merzliknis
2015 2nd round pick: (Toronto's)
2015 3rd round pick: (Detroit's)
2015 7th round pick: (Toronto; conditional with condition unknown)
Hopefully, one of the picks hit.
We have four defensemen who are already better than John Moore, and that doesn't include Savard, who is comparable. No thanks.
There didn't end up being another 7th, and the 2nd and 3rd were traded to move back up and take Gabe Carlsson. And of course D'Amigo turned into nothing. So Carlsson and Merzlikins.
So what are people's opinions on Jarmo right now?
"Pretty darn" is a bit too much don't you think? I've asked it a couple times in two years.I'm curious, you seem pretty darn interested in people's opinion on Jarmo. Can I ask why? It'll probably help one of us give you a more satisfactory answer:
So what are people's opinions on Jarmo right now?
"Pretty darn" is a bit too much don't you think? I've asked it a couple times in two years.
What's so weird about a someone not living in NA being curious what people in NA think of the only Finnish general manager in the league? This is a message board, isn't it?
For me there's really nothing else interesting about this organization except the GM. I am deeply sorry for that.
He sometimes gets credit for development/identification of Wennberg, Jenner, etc..., but those players were drafted by prior GM.
First Round Draft Picks.
Jury still out - mixed bag.
2013 (JK's first draft for CBJ) - snared Wennberg w/ 14OA pick, looks to be solid playmaker as a 1/2C (not elite but solid and getting better, may have significant more upside).
"Pretty darn" is a bit too much don't you think? I've asked it a couple times in two years.
What's so weird about a someone not living in NA being curious what people in NA think of the only Finnish general manager in the league? This is a message board, isn't it?
For me there's really nothing else interesting about this organization except the GM. I am deeply sorry for that.
Small quibble, but just clarifying the inconsistency in the bolded here. Jarmo did draft Wennberg.
2015 Werenski 8OA - outstanding rookie season, looks to have great chance to be elite, appears to have been JK's guy all along, seems like a grand slam pick of a D-man.