Post-Game Talk: The first step to losing is trying

[Frk It]

Focus your anger at the parity league, not the men adjusting to it.

That's the exact opposite of what you should do. It's not constructive in the least.

You can only be mad at the system being the system for so long. Eventually you have to adjust to it or you'll get passed and eventually replaced.

 

[avssuc]

I think it's fair to say Holland was heavily responsible for the success of the 2008 Cup squad. Without a doubt beyond Lidstrom and Holmstrom this team was rebuilt quickly after 2002.

Drafts: 04 Franzen (3rd round), Hudler 02 (2nd round), Kronwall 00, Filppula in 02 (3rd round). Datsyuk (98) and Z (99). Pretty amazing success from those later picks.

Mentioned was Stuart but cannot forget other players brought in who were factors. Chelios traded for in 1999. Samuelsson was picked up in 2006. Biggest of all was acquiring Rafalski for that season!

Much of this was sheer luck and favorable conditions Holland was granted from Devellano, especially having a mentor like Bowman to follow. No matter the 2008 Stanley Cup was a great accomplishment and we have to give Holland credit for his part in run.

Nill ran the draft

 

[Heaton]

Nill ran the draft

Holland is still responsible, he gets credit when it goes well and criticism when it goes poorly.

 

[Claypool]

Holland is still responsible, he gets credit when it goes well and criticism when it goes poorly.

Holland never gets credit for anything.

 

[Heaton]

Holland never gets credit for anything.

Sure he does. But he gets more criticism these last few years and there's been fewer things to give credit for.

 

[avssuc]

Sure he does. But he gets more criticism these last few years and there's been fewer things to give credit for.

We all know that we have Holland to thank for the invention of the Internet and finding Manbearpig.

Seriously though, you guys ripping posters for ripping Holland might want to take an honest look at his resume. It's a team effort up there boys.

 

[SoupNazi]

There's a new game going on and most of this discussion belongs in the Tank thread to begin with.