The Draft Position Thread

[Ace]

Sergachev could turn out to be a real test for whether Murray really won't draft a Russian. If we are sitting 9 and Matthews, Laine, Puljujarvi, Tkachuk, Dubois, Chychrun, Juolevi and Nylander are gone. Sergachev sure looks a lot like what we need and want as a player. A dynamic offensively skilled player jumping into the fray with how we want to play? Seems perfect. Just one potential hiccup.

 

[Husko]

To those that have seen Serg more than me, question: how are his outlet passes. His Campbell style ability to carry the puck up the ice is nice and all, but I just don't know if it'll translate to the NHL at all. I'm much more hoping for a D that is 'offensive'' in that he can hit a long stretch pass under pressure to break out of the zone on the rush. Does he have that element of his game? Work in progress? Unknown because he so easily rushes himself?

 

[Chainshot]

To those that have seen Serg more than me, question: how are his outlet passes. His Campbell style ability to carry the puck up the ice is nice and all, but I just don't know if it'll translate to the NHL at all. I'm much more hoping for a D that is 'offensive'' in that he can hit a long stretch pass under pressure to break out of the zone on the rush. Does he have that element of his game? Work in progress? Unknown because he so easily rushes himself?

In what I've seen, I have no issue with his ability to sling the puck up-ice. Is it his greatest strength? Probably not, but it's not something he struggles with. He is entertaining as hell though and I've said it before, he's fun to watch.

 

[Reddawg]

Ran it twice

1 ARZ NJD BUF
2 BUF ARZ CAR

Im good with either. I would love to see Arizona or New Jersey get an impact player.

Ran it ten times, we ended up with 1st overall twice, 2nd overall twice.

One time dealer. One time!

 

[Djp]

Updated........through 3/28

10. Ottawa 76 34 33 9 77 wpg(w) min phl PIT FLA bos
8. Montreal 76 34 36 6 74 DET(t) tb fla FLA car TB
9. Arizona 76 34 35 7 75 dal WAS stl chi nsv sj
7. Buffalo 76 31 35 10 72 pit(t) TOR(r) nyr. nj CBS nyi
5. Winnipeg 76 31 38 7 69 OTT(w) CHI MIN ana sj la
6. Calgary 76 32 38 6 70 ana(w) la edm LA VAN min
4. Columbus 76 30 38 8 68 nyi carNYR tor buf CHI
3. Vancouver 75 27 35 13 67 SJ(t) sj ana LA edm cgy EDM
2. Edmonton 79 30 42 7 67 CGY VAN van
1. Toronto 75 27 37 11 65 fla(t) buf DET FLA CBS phl nj

 

[Husko]

Updated........through 3/28 early games

10. Ottawa 76 34 33 9 77 wpg min phl PIT FLA bos
8. Montreal 76 34 36 6 74 DET tb fla FLA car TB
9. Arizona 75 34 34 7 75 CGY(m)dal WAS stl chi nsv sj
7. Buffalo 76 31 35 10 72 pit(t) TOR(r) nyr. nj CBS nyi
6. Winnipeg 76 31 38 7 69 OTT CHI MIN ana sj la
5. Calgary 75 31 38 6 68 Az(m)ana la edm LA VAN min
4. Columbus 76 30 38 8 68 nyi carNYR tor buf CHI
3. Vancouver 75 27 35 13 67 SJ sj ana LA edm cgy EDM
2. Edmonton 78 30 41 7 67 ANA(m) CGY VAN van
1. Toronto 75 27 37 11 65 fla buf DET FLA CBS phl nj

You should throw this info into a publicly visible google doc. Would be easier to update, easier to read, and all you'd have to do is repost the link/screen shot each day

 

[dotcommunism]

So, mathematically eliminated from the playoffs tonight. Not that that's a surprise to anyone

 

[Sabresfansince1980]

So, mathematically eliminated from the playoffs tonight. Not that that's a surprise to anyone

No surprise to my therapist. He always raises my rate this time of year...like clockwork.

 

[MayDayMayDay]

All aboard the Juolevi Express! I want an all-Finnish top pair!

 

[EichHart]

Updated........through 3/28 early games

10. Ottawa 76 34 33 9 77 wpg min phl PIT FLA bos
8. Montreal 76 34 36 6 74 DET tb fla FLA car TB
9. Arizona 75 34 34 7 75 CGY(m)dal WAS stl chi nsv sj
7. Buffalo 76 31 35 10 72 pit(t) TOR(r) nyr. nj CBS nyi
6. Winnipeg 76 31 38 7 69 OTT CHI MIN ana sj la
5. Calgary 75 31 38 6 68 Az(m)ana la edm LA VAN min
4. Columbus 76 30 38 8 68 nyi carNYR tor buf CHI
3. Vancouver 75 27 35 13 67 SJ sj ana LA edm cgy EDM
2. Edmonton 78 30 41 7 67 ANA(m) CGY VAN van
1. Toronto 75 27 37 11 65 fla buf DET FLA CBS phl nj

I'm completely fine with staying at pick 7. I think Calgary/Winnipeg/Columbus are fine on D and suspect them to take forwards. I expect Toronto/Vancouver/Edmonton to focus on D, but be to close to the top picks to take one. I really like our spot right now in regards to possible snagging a top LH D barring any lottery implications.

 

[Djp]

I'm completely fine with staying at pick 7. I think Calgary/Winnipeg/Columbus are fine on D and suspect them to take forwards. I expect Toronto/Vancouver/Edmonton to focus on D, but be to close to the top picks to take one. I really like our spot right now in regards to possible snagging a top LH D barring any lottery implications.

Unless WPG wins top 3 they likely picking D. They have drafted Scheifele, Lowry, Ehlers, Petann, and Conner at forward since 2011, and acquire Armia (20121 1st) They drafted Morrissey on D. Given age of Enstrom, they likely use a pick to add defensive depth.

Calgary is a 50/50...they have used 2 high picks on Monahan and Bennett, they signed Gsudreau and they have Jankowski coming from college next year.Hamilton with last years 1st. They have drafted a few other Dman with 1sts or high 2nd the past few years.

Columbus likely going forward with their pick
Edmonton should go defense.
Vancouver should go offense
Toronto picking top 4 likely going offense, after that it's a coin flip.

 

[truthbluth]

Updated........through 3/28 early games

10. Ottawa 76 34 33 9 77 wpg min phl PIT FLA bos
8. Montreal 76 34 36 6 74 DET tb fla FLA car TB
9. Arizona 75 34 34 7 75 CGY(m)dal WAS stl chi nsv sj
7. Buffalo 76 31 35 10 72 pit(t) TOR(r) nyr. nj CBS nyi
6. Winnipeg 76 31 38 7 69 OTT CHI MIN ana sj la
5. Calgary 75 31 38 6 68 Az(m)ana la edm LA VAN min
4. Columbus 76 30 38 8 68 nyi carNYR tor buf CHI
3. Vancouver 75 27 35 13 67 SJ sj ana LA edm cgy EDM
2. Edmonton 78 30 41 7 67 ANA(m) CGY VAN van
1. Toronto 75 27 37 11 65 fla buf DET FLA CBS phl nj

Well, lottery aside, that's not a good spot, unless you really like Tkachuk, which I do.

I see Edmonton swapping with Cbus, and taking Chychurn. And I see Peg addressing it's shallow prospect pool on LHD with Juolevi. If Calgary takes Dubois, who is nearing consensus as the top forward in the 2nd tier, that leaves Tkachuk as the only really viable pick for the Sabres at 7. No way Murray goes Sergachev, and Bean and McAvoy play the wrong side. McLeod would be pretty redundant. Nylander would make for a fun rivalry with Toronto, but I don't think he's a fit with what the Sabres are building. I really like Gauthier, but he's a lottery ticket, and I see Murray being safe.

For better or for worse, if his is how the lottery were to play out, Buffalo will likely be drafting the bane of stat guys everywhere.

 

[EichHart]

Well, lottery aside, that's not a good spot, unless you really like Tkachuk, which I do.

I see Edmonton swapping with Cbus, and taking Chychurn. And I see Peg addressing it's shallow prospect pool on LHD with Juolevi. If Calgary takes Dubois, who is nearing consensus as the top forward in the 2nd tier, that leaves Tkachuk as the only really viable pick for the Sabres at 7. No way Murray goes Sergachev, and Bean and McAvoy play the wrong side. McLeod would be pretty redundant. Nylander would make for a fun rivalry with Toronto, but I don't think he's a fit with what the Sabres are building. I really like Gauthier, but he's a lottery ticket, and I see Murray being safe.

For better or for worse, if his is how the lottery were to play out, Buffalo will likely be drafting the bane of stat guys everywhere.

What?

If we're top 8 we get either of

Matthews- Franchise changing player
Laine- #1 Winger
Puljujärvi- #1 Winger
Tkachuk- #1/2 Winger
Chychrun- Top 2 D
Nylander- Top 6 Winger
Dubois- Top 6 Winger/Center
Juolevi- Top 2/3 D

I'm happy with any of these 8 picks, which is why we need to stay top 8. Sergachev is great, but the Russian factor is real, especially with Murray at helm. We fall pass 8 and then we have some issues on who to draft.

 

[EichHart]

Unless WPG wins top 3 they likely picking D. They have drafted Scheifele, Lowry, Ehlers, Petann, and Conner at forward since 2011, and acquire Armia (20121 1st) They drafted Morrissey on D. Given age of Enstrom, they likely use a pick to add defensive depth.

Calgary is a 50/50...they have used 2 high picks on Monahan and Bennett, they signed Gsudreau and they have Jankowski coming from college next year.Hamilton with last years 1st. They have drafted a few other Dman with 1sts or high 2nd the past few years.

Columbus likely going forward with their pick
Edmonton should go defense.
Vancouver should go offense
Toronto picking top 4 likely going offense, after that it's a coin flip.

Good point, but they also have Buff who they just signed, Trouba who is looking for a long extension soon, Myers and Morrissey who should be joining the club soon. Their top 4 D look in place for quite sometime.

Calgary has Brodie, Hamilton, Giordano as the top 3 D. They could go either way.

 

[Ace]

I like Keller and Sergachev more than some of their forward/D counterparts. They fall back because of factors unrelated to their ability (Keller is 5'10 and Sergachev was born in the wrong country). Both have unreal talent.

 

[BB88]

All aboard the Juolevi Express! I want an all-Finnish top pair!

I'd make a guess if this is how the season ends Juolevi gets picked by Buffalo.
My money is on Calgary adding a forward at 6th, wanting to add size on the wings.

 

[truthbluth]

What?

If we're top 8 we get either of

Matthews- Franchise changing player
Laine- #1 Winger
Puljujärvi- #1 Winger
Tkachuk- #1/2 Winger
Chychrun- Top 2 D
Nylander- Top 6 Winger
Dubois- Top 6 Winger/Center
Juolevi- Top 2/3 D

I'm happy with any of these 8 picks, which is why we need to stay top 8. Sergachev is great, but the Russian factor is real, especially with Murray at helm. We fall pass 8 and then we have some issues on who to draft.

I think you missed the point of my post. Which is probably my fault. My point was 7th isn't great if you are looking for a lefty defenseman. I don't believe Chychrun or Juolevi will be there. For the record, I really like Tkachuk and think he is the perfect winger to round out the top 6. Smart, good on the boards, and doesn't need the puck on his stick to be effective. Ideal fit for Eichel or Reinhart's wing.

 

[stokes84]

If we are drafting 7 and get Tkachuk, I'll be doing cartwheels.

 

[Husko]

Just watched the last 5 minutes of the Habs game. Man, that was painful. They're bad. Bad bad.

But I digress, after much of the night looking as though we might gain on them, they actually separate from us by a point.

And toronto wins, which is hilarious

 

[Jame]

Just watched the last 5 minutes of the Habs game. Man, that was painful. They're bad. Bad bad.

But I digress, after much of the night looking as though we might gain on them, they actually separate from us by a point.

And toronto wins, which is hilarious

We are somehow going to acquire PK this offseason

 

[Husko]

We are somehow going to acquire PK this offseason

Is that a good thing or a bad thing?

 

[EichHart]

I think you missed the point of my post. Which is probably my fault. My point was 7th isn't great if you are looking for a lefty defenseman. I don't believe Chychrun or Juolevi will be there. For the record, I really like Tkachuk and think he is the perfect winger to round out the top 6. Smart, good on the boards, and doesn't need the puck on his stick to be effective. Ideal fit for Eichel or Reinhart's wing.

Completely agree. Tkachuk IMO would really do well with Eichel and Reinhart. A griddy guy that can help along the boards with a playmaker in Reinhart and a sniper in Eichel.

 

[Zman5778]

We are somehow going to acquire PK this offseason

If Montreal trades PK, Bergevin should be fired, drawn and quartered.

 

[EichHart]

If Montreal trades PK, Bergevin should be fired, drawn and quartered.

If they really want to go full rebuild, he would be able to get anything they wanted from Edmonton, except McJesus.

I could see them making a pitch for him. Yakupov to play with Gally, 2016 1st (Top 3-4), and Nurse might get the ball rolling.

 

[Slangston]

We are somehow going to acquire PK this offseason

If that happens...