Confirmed with Link: The demote DSP thread (DSP sent to Norfolk)

AngelDuck

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This has been talked about a lot...so I thought I'd start a thread about it. Seriously, the guy is a well below average NHL player right now.
 
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Ducksgo*

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Demote and promote Etem. This isn't a discussion this is a fact haha :laugh:
 

Sean Garrity

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Etem should stay, and FFS I have learned to hate DSP. He literally provides nothing. Like I mentioned in another thread, I think the GDT or Roster thread, I'd prefer Rakell on that wing due to his faceoff/defensive abilities. I'm just not sold on BB being sold on BB's thoughts on Rakell v DSP physically.
 

JabbaJabba

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DSP has a negative +/-, he doesn't hit, he doesn't score... He brings some energy and forechecking but that's nothing even compared to his performance last year. I wonder if he was ruined last year by giving him an NHL job right away. Now just by looking him play, it seems like he doesn't even try to play better. DSP needs to be sent down because now he's just wasting a roster spot. Keep Rakell or call up Holland or McMillan. He needs to earn his spot back.
 

snarktacular

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I want DSP sent down too. I don't think he's good enough to justify his spot, or hits enough to overlook his play. He also doesn't play physical before or after the whistle, which would also make me give some slack.

But to be fair to the guy, he is putting up the hit stats. While he's an unimpressive 9th in hits on the team, he's actually 3rd in hits/TOI.

player | hits | min | sec | hits/min
winnik | 16 | 18 | 6 | 0.883977901
staubitz | 2 | 5 | 5 | 0.393442623
beleksey | 25 | 86 | 30 | 0.289017341
SP | 10 | 39 | 59 | 0.25010421
ryan | 16 | 115 | 4 | 0.139049826
allen | 17 | 137 | 33 | 0.123591421
rakell | 4 | 35 | 48 | 0.111731844
palmieri | 9 | 84 | 54 | 0.106007067
lydman | 12 | 121 | 14 | 0.098982678
sbisa | 12 | 128 | 47 | 0.093179759
getzlaf | 14 | 150 | 56 | 0.092756184
beauchemin | 13 | 160 | 55 | 0.080787157
vataen | 1 | 13 | 52 | 0.072115385
cogliano | 6 | 101 | 54 | 0.058881256
hendry | 1 | 18 | 24 | 0.054347826
etem | 1 | 23 | 11 | 0.043134436
souray | 5 | 146 | 25 | 0.034149118
koivu | 4 | 120 | 30 | 0.033195021
perry | 4 | 142 | 9 | 0.028139289
selanne | 3 | 109 | 37 | 0.027368101
fowler | 3 | 119 | 42 | 0.025062657
bonino | 2 | 96 | 21 | 0.020757654
holland | 0 | 7 | 57 | 0
 

quentez

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Keep Rakell on the wing and send down DSP. That 4th line will get even better with the hands and two-way play of Rakell.

But man Etem has impressed me.
 

Vipers31

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Personally, I'd rather have this debate in the general roster discussion thread. I don't think there's a big controversy about the pros and cons, and it seems to be the consensus, anyway. I don't think it's good style to have a thread dedicated to the demotion of a young player this way.

I don't want to impose that view by just locking/merging it, but I do hope the point is agreeable and we can get rid of this one.
 

OCSportsfan

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Personally, I'd rather have this debate in the general roster discussion thread. I don't think there's a big controversy about the pros and cons, and it seems to be the consensus, anyway. I don't think it's good style to have a thread dedicated to the demotion of a young player this way.

I don't want to impose that view by just locking/merging it, but I do hope the point is agreeable and we can get rid of this one.

I agree, please move the thread.
 

Fighter

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DSP hasn't even been physical at all these past games. Not NHL ready at the moment, demote him and bring in the lineup Rakell or Holland.
 

AngelDuck

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Personally, I'd rather have this debate in the general roster discussion thread. I don't think there's a big controversy about the pros and cons, and it seems to be the consensus, anyway. I don't think it's good style to have a thread dedicated to the demotion of a young player this way.

I don't want to impose that view by just locking/merging it, but I do hope the point is agreeable and we can get rid of this one.

Feel free to do whatever you want with the thread. This is the biggest issue I have with the team right now, so I wanted to see where everyone else stands on this. Now it's clear that we're almost all in agreement. Go ahead and merge/delete this if you want to.
 

Vinegar Strokes

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Good deal.

Now go with this lineup and we'll be set.

Etem-Getz-Perry
Palmieri-Ryan-Selanne
Cogs-Koivu-Pooh
Belesky-Boner-Rakell

And I think we'll be set. Also, for the love of god keep Belesky off the PP.

I'd also call up PL3 in place of Staubitz...Staubitz might be a better skater, but let's be honest, they're both terrible and at least PL3 can wreck in a fight.
 

HanSolo

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We sent Devante Pellysmith down. Hopefully he finds Devante Smith Pelly and we can call him up. Pellysmith is a career AHLer.

Either way :handclap:
 

AngelDuck

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All I can say is it's about time. Etem has officially passed DSP on the depth chart...for now
 

Dirk316

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Hopefully he watched how Staubitz played and gets it in his skull that he was drafted because of physical play. He has talent and hopefully replace Cogs with some developement
 

bumperkisser

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ya. i hope this lights a fire under DSP, he can be a great bottom 6 forward if he develops properly.
 

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