Speculation: The coaching search continues

[Sens of Anarchy]

I don’t mind Evason but that is a lot of 1st round losses on his record. I’d like to get past the 1st round. Not that it means he can’t do it but…idk

last 3 ; Not sure Minnesota had the horses to win any of those
Lost to Vegas
Lost to Stl
Lost to Dallas

 

[swiftwin]

I don't think DJ is coming back Swifty.

I don't think so either. He seems to be doing a good job in LA.

 

[PlayOn]

McLellan feels like the safest choice in that he has a proven track record with three different teams, so I’m sure he could get us to the playoffs sooner rather than later, but after that… who knows if he sticks.

Evason has less history but the unknown could be a good thing or a bad thing.

Green doesn’t have a great track record but Vancouver was pretty dysfunctional during his tenure to be fair. I don’t know much about him.

Experience or not it doesn’t feel like there’s much of a slam dunk choice outside of Berube so guess we’ll see what happens.

 

[bert]

I have watched Mclellan mismanage playoff teams a couple of times. Really not a fan, especially with how he handles his goalies. Berube is the obvious choice, id be fine with Evason. He did alot with not much. Look theyre worse without him. Seems like a stand up intense guy.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

I have watched Mclellan mismanage playoff teams a couple of times. Really not a fan, especially with how he handles his goalies. Berube is the obvious choice, id be fine with Evason. He did alot with not much. Look theyre worse without him. Seems like a stand up intense guy.

Agree. Give me Berube, Julien or Evason.

 

[BigRig4]

Disclaimer that it's really hard to evaluate coaches because we have no idea how much they contributed etc. but I'd be really bummed if Travis Green was the choice.

 

[Joeyjoejoe]

Give me Berube but it seems like he’s not interested in the Ottawa job and only has eyes for Toronto.

If it’s not Berube then Evason. He created a system where goalies thrive in. That’s what we need. He also managed to get a mediocre to poor roster with shit ton of dead cap to the playoffs.

Please no to Travis Green, I would rather Keefe, he at least gets the most out of his crappy dcore and makes the playoffs.

Again, no to Green, I would rather hire a rookie AHL coach if that’s the case

 

[Butchy Dakkar]

If those guys are the final 4 then Berube for sure

If not McLellan will do I guess

Do “league executives” actually talk about the stuff to Bruce?? Or is this a play for credibility with new management tight-lipped? Truth or speculation?

Also, how long has it been since we have been called a “stable option” Lol

“Green spent five years behind the Vancouver bench and struggled to have success but many believe he deserves a second chance because the Canucks were dysfunctional and the Senators are a stable option.”

 

[Emerica]

Do “league executives” actually talk about the stuff to Bruce?? Or is this a play for credibility with new management tight-lipped? Truth or speculation?

Also, how long has it been since we have been called a “stable option” Lol

“Green spent five years behind the Vancouver bench and struggled to have success but many believe he deserves a second chance because the Canucks were dysfunctional and the Senators are a stable option.”

“league executives” is Garrioch inner monologue.

Apparently he had “league executives” talking to him about f***ing Lassi Thompson and Egor Sokolov prior to the trade deadline. Like which league executive outside Ottawa would consciously be taking the time to talk about those two guys. All it is now is Garrioch own speculation camouflaged behind “league executives” he supposedly has on speed dial willing to feed him information for his columns.

 

[BondraTime]

Vegas odds as of yesterday

% is the implued probability

John Gruden	+130	43.48%
Craig Berube	+220	31.25%
Todd McLellan	+340	22.73%
Dean Evason	+750	11.76%
Jay McKee	+900	10.00%
Jay Woodcroft	+1000	9.09%
Gerard Gallant	+1500	6.25%
Chris Kelly	+6000	1.64%
Travis Green	+6000	1.64%
Claude Julen	+9500	1.04%

If Garrioch's info is actually from executives, which is highly unlikely, would be wise to throw a few sheckles on Green

 

[Micklebot]

Vegas odds as of yesterday

% is the implued probability

John Gruden	+130	43.48%
Craig Berube	+220	31.25%
Todd McLellan	+340	22.73%
Dean Evason	+750	11.76%
Jay McKee	+900	10.00%
Jay Woodcroft	+1000	9.09%
Gerard Gallant	+1500	6.25%
Chris Kelly	+6000	1.64%
Travis Green	+6000	1.64%
Claude Julen	+9500	1.04%

If Garrioch's info is actually from executives, which is highly unlikely, would be wise to throw a few sheckles on Green

I don't get why Gruden is seen as the favourite at this point, seems like all the smoke is around other options for the last few months.

 

[BondraTime]

I don't get why Gruden is seen as the favourite at this point, seems like all the smoke is around other options for the last few months.

Vegas usually has a heads up with this stuff, obvious with how they opperate

He's definitely not seen as the favorite by fans, that's for sure, but obviously bookmakers who have legitimate contacts, a prerequsite for their profession, are setting the lines pretty generously

 

[Micklebot]

Vegas usually has a heads up with this stuff, obvious with how they opperate

He's definitely not seen as the favorite by fans, that's for sure

Yeah, I mean, they obviously aren't basing it on nothing,

That said, it might be a case of adjusting the odds because of the bets they've already received. Apparently that tends to be about 10% of how they adjust the odds.

 

[BondraTime]

Yeah, I mean, they obviously aren't basing it on nothing,

That said, it might be a case of adjusting the odds because of the bets they've already received. Apparently that tends to be about 10% of how they adjust the odds.

Absolutely, smart money is putting it eslewhere now, would be pretty foolish to put money on Gruden with those odds, but even with the bet adjustments, Vegas is still backing Gruden

 

[GCK]

I’m starting to think Julien with Gruden as top assistant.

 

[ATdaisuki]

I know his name means nothing but playoff failures to most people, but what Keefe was able to squeeze out of that Leafs team defensively was impressive. I think he's a good coach and while I don't think I would hire him this time around, I am interested in seeing what he can accomplish with a core that has heart.

 

[GCK]

I know his name means nothing but playoff failures to most people, but what Keefe was able to squeeze out of that Leafs team defensively was impressive. I think he's a good coach and while I don't think I would hire him this time around, I am interested in seeing what he can accomplish with a core that has heart.

I’d take Keefe in a heartbeat but I’m fairly certain Dubas would go and get him.

 

[PlayOn]

Friedman said today he’s been told Berube won’t be Ottawa’s coach. Kind of seemed that way anyway but we can probably cross him off the list

 

[BondraTime]

Also interesting that Jay McKee is so high up on the odds list with his connections to Andlauer through Hamilton/Brantford, his name hasn't been mentioned anywhere.

 

[GCK]

Friedman said today he’s been told Berube won’t be Ottawa’s coach. Kind of seemed that way anyway but we can probably cross him off the list

That was apparent awhile ago.

 

[bert]

Vegas odds as of yesterday

% is the implued probability

John Gruden	+130	43.48%
Craig Berube	+220	31.25%
Todd McLellan	+340	22.73%
Dean Evason	+750	11.76%
Jay McKee	+900	10.00%
Jay Woodcroft	+1000	9.09%
Gerard Gallant	+1500	6.25%
Chris Kelly	+6000	1.64%
Travis Green	+6000	1.64%
Claude Julen	+9500	1.04%

If Garrioch's info is actually from executives, which is highly unlikely, would be wise to throw a few sheckles on Green

Think about it, would a guy like Staios want to talk to someone like Garrioch? A guy that doesnt take care of himself, never played the sport. Cant put together a sentence. Why on earth would he want to do him any favors. Hockey guys dont like Garrioch.

Also interesting that Jay McKee is so high up on the odds list with his connections to Andlauer through Hamilton/Brantford, his name hasn't been mentioned anywhere.

Yeah I think Vegas doesnt really know either they are just using people connected to the ownership group from a probability stand point.

I’d take Keefe in a heartbeat but I’m fairly certain Dubas would go and get him.

Perfect Sullivan would be a way better option. Not sure he would come here though.

 

[Micklebot]

I know his name means nothing but playoff failures to most people, but what Keefe was able to squeeze out of that Leafs team defensively was impressive. I think he's a good coach and while I don't think I would hire him this time around, I am interested in seeing what he can accomplish with a core that has heart.

Jason York saying Guy Boucher's fingerprints was all over how they played defensively.

 

[BankStreetParade]

I know his name means nothing but playoff failures to most people, but what Keefe was able to squeeze out of that Leafs team defensively was impressive. I think he's a good coach and while I don't think I would hire him this time around, I am interested in seeing what he can accomplish with a core that has heart.

He did it with nothing but his bare hands and a $150M hockey operations budget.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

We’re so f***ed.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Vegas odds as of yesterday

% is the implued probability

John Gruden	+130	43.48%
Craig Berube	+220	31.25%
Todd McLellan	+340	22.73%
Dean Evason	+750	11.76%
Jay McKee	+900	10.00%
Jay Woodcroft	+1000	9.09%
Gerard Gallant	+1500	6.25%
Chris Kelly	+6000	1.64%
Travis Green	+6000	1.64%
Claude Julen	+9500	1.04%

If Garrioch's info is actually from executives, which is highly unlikely, would be wise to throw a few sheckles on Green

What are the bet against Gruden odds?