"The Canadian Way"
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1Gold Standard
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Button is just trolling one particular Swedish poster who constantly, habitually to an insane degree, posts on TSN the most annoying BS in the history of internet forums.
So Sweden saw Canada's master plan of 'playing like a team' and 'developing skills' and chose to emulate them. Can anyone name a nation that's had success in team sports without developing skills or playing as a team? This is some fluffy stuff.
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I agree. You're welcome Sweden for Canada teaching you team play, unselfishness, sacrifice, commitment, skill development and actually following your game plan, in addition to how to play in the difficult areas in ways unlike small sickly little girls.
I also commend the thread worthiness of Button's opus, which I'm sure was posted with only the intention of generating thoughtful discussion.
I also commend the thread worthiness of Button's opus, which I'm sure was posted with only the intention of generating thoughtful discussion.
Hes wrong on so many accounts yes Sweden needed to go to the net more but thats about it that they got from Canada. Team play and sacriface is Swedens strong suit in all team sports since we usually dont have the skill (hockey excluded) to win games any other way. Since we have traditonally a socialist country it comes ingrained since our birth. You are never bigger then the team.
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I didn't know where else to stick the article. A lot has been made of the Swedish junior resurgence and this seems to credit much of that to Canadian influence. I don't buy it. The idea that Canadian corner the market on intangibles is ridiculous. It certainly hasn't helped their own success at the junior level (outside of the Olympics) of late.
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which coincidentally enough occurred right about the time Sweden adopted a very aggressive, almost N.American style of game by a coach who, as it just so happened, coached for a while in N. America....maybe he learned a thing or two along the way...
Everything else you reading into it (Canadians cornering the market) is just your imagination, but I get it... you have your own agenda...nicely played.
Everybody seems to be over-evaluating themselves and their development programs these days... Everybody.
If you want my explanation as to why Button did that piece, he was being pressured by his bosses to file something, and since he's the biggest asskisser on the planet, I'm sure he believes it was a sincere attempt to flatter both Federations for their hard work, cooperation and commitment to improve.
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Internet forums being replete with "annoying BS", I stand in awe of that poster.
I agree. It would be ignorant to think that the World hasn't learned anything from Canada, as probably it goes the other way too.
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There are some who do it well, I'm pretty good at it...but the Swedish poster I'm talking about who trolls the pages of TSN 24/7 or close to it, even I'm in awe of his particular brand of anti-Canadian BS. How the hell he gets past TSN mods baffles the **** out of me.
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I would think that much of Sweden's upturn is derived from their junior inquiry in 2002. It will be interesting to see the words of one unreliable pundit spun as the common opinion of Canada though.
Well obviously, since Canada is where hockey came from. Canada has learned from Europe since the early 1970s and should continue to do so. In this instance there isn't any reason to think that Sweden "copied" anything from Canada.
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Every hockey playing country has learned a lot from Canada whether they will admit it or not, how couldn't they?
I won't comment on the article in regards to Sweden but I will say that no other country has looked to Canada and emulated their game more then U.S.A hockey, every step of the way in their development they have looked to Canada as the gold standard and basically copied lock step what they do for the most part.
They learned to play the game from Canada and owe it a great debt to this day. There is no North American Style or American style of hockey.........................it's Canadas style and that is what the Americans learned, were raised with and play.
It is only natural they would.
The rivalry between U.S and Canadian hockey pretty much assures there will be no love lost in comments concerning each other from their fans, but behind it all is the certain reality that the reason there are even hockey fans south of the border is because of Canada and the emergence of their position as a hockey power is due to Canada and it's influence via the N.H.L. Hell, half the U.S team that won in Lake Placid in 1980 would never even have took up the game if they had not grown up idolizing Bobby Orr for Gods sake.
I don't expect fans from other countries to like us, but I expect them to give us our due, however grudgingly.
I won't comment on the article in regards to Sweden but I will say that no other country has looked to Canada and emulated their game more then U.S.A hockey, every step of the way in their development they have looked to Canada as the gold standard and basically copied lock step what they do for the most part.
They learned to play the game from Canada and owe it a great debt to this day. There is no North American Style or American style of hockey.........................it's Canadas style and that is what the Americans learned, were raised with and play.
It is only natural they would.
The rivalry between U.S and Canadian hockey pretty much assures there will be no love lost in comments concerning each other from their fans, but behind it all is the certain reality that the reason there are even hockey fans south of the border is because of Canada and the emergence of their position as a hockey power is due to Canada and it's influence via the N.H.L. Hell, half the U.S team that won in Lake Placid in 1980 would never even have took up the game if they had not grown up idolizing Bobby Orr for Gods sake.
I don't expect fans from other countries to like us, but I expect them to give us our due, however grudgingly.
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I wouldn't say Sweden copied Canada, I would say that they recognized areas that they fell short in vs Canada, and improved that area of their game.
I also don't think that is something exclusive to Sweden. Every successful team has learned from their losses and identified areas they need to improve.
Canada has learned the value of a strong puck possession game from many of the European teams and at the last Olympics Canada finally figured out that having defenceman who can quickly move the puck is a far better strategy than having hulking guys looking to punish the opposition with big hits.
Right now I also think Canada needs to take a good look at how the US is putting together its world junior teams. Their system of having their team play together year round is proving to be a far better system than Canada's CHL All-star team they put together with only a short camp before the tournament.
I also don't think that is something exclusive to Sweden. Every successful team has learned from their losses and identified areas they need to improve.
Canada has learned the value of a strong puck possession game from many of the European teams and at the last Olympics Canada finally figured out that having defenceman who can quickly move the puck is a far better strategy than having hulking guys looking to punish the opposition with big hits.
Right now I also think Canada needs to take a good look at how the US is putting together its world junior teams. Their system of having their team play together year round is proving to be a far better system than Canada's CHL All-star team they put together with only a short camp before the tournament.
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Sweden is a small country, hockey is not the biggest sport here, yet we produce great hockey players and teams that can compete with the best.
I don't see it myself.
Straightforward gritty hard fore check/back check game with tenacious puck pursuit,physicality and going to the net.
Standard Canadian IMO with maybe a little more emphasis on speed all through the lineup.
Aside from a heavy emphasis on skating i see little difference at all.
Maybe my knowledge is not quite as refined though.
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