The Armchair GM Thread - LXXXIV

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[biturbo19]

Jamie McBain, Camp Invite...that's what i want to see.

I'd give him a contract, but a camp invite would do just fine. It's hard to imagine how a RH shooting defenceman with some PP credibility, a good shot, and some offensive instincts wouldn't be at least an upgrade over Yannick Weber. Maybe Corrado does beat him out, but i'd wager McBain is in the sort of situation where he could absolutely take a spot on this roster based on his specific skillset.

We're talking about a guy who could potentially play a bottom-pairing role, but has the PP credentials to play on the top unit here. He's no Ehrhoff...but he's as good as anyone we have outside of Edler on the PP and he offers the RH shot we badly need on that top unit.

 

[BobbyJazzLegs]

Jamie McBain, Camp Invite...that's what i want to see.

I'd give him a contract, but a camp invite would do just fine. It's hard to imagine how a RH shooting defenceman with some PP credibility, a good shot, and some offensive instincts wouldn't be at least an upgrade over Yannick Weber. Maybe Corrado does beat him out, but i'd wager McBain is in the sort of situation where he could absolutely take a spot on this roster based on his specific skillset.

We're talking about a guy who could potentially play a bottom-pairing role, but has the PP credentials to play on the top unit here. He's no Ehrhoff...but he's as good as anyone we have outside of Edler on the PP and he offers the RH shot we badly need on that top unit.

I'm with you. Wouldn't mind seeing how he shapes up, particularly compared to Weber.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Jamie McBain, Camp Invite...that's what i want to see.

I'd give him a contract, but a camp invite would do just fine. It's hard to imagine how a RH shooting defenceman with some PP credibility, a good shot, and some offensive instincts wouldn't be at least an upgrade over Yannick Weber. Maybe Corrado does beat him out, but i'd wager McBain is in the sort of situation where he could absolutely take a spot on this roster based on his specific skillset.

We're talking about a guy who could potentially play a bottom-pairing role, but has the PP credentials to play on the top unit here. He's no Ehrhoff...but he's as good as anyone we have outside of Edler on the PP and he offers the RH shot we badly need on that top unit.

Agreed, it will make Weber and Corrado push harder,

 

[Barney Gumble]

I'd give him a contract, but a camp invite would do just fine.

I wouldn't give him a contract but wouldn't be opposed to offering him a PTO.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I'd love to get Dekeyser from Detroit. I'd want a deal centered around Tanev and Dekeyser. Detroit needs young Right Handed defensive defensman and we need an offensive defensman.

 

[Ryp37]

When did Dekeyser turn into an offensive d-man?

 

[Maccas]

I'd love to get Dekeyser from Detroit. I'd want a deal centered around Tanev and Dekeyser. Detroit needs young Right Handed defensive defensman and we need an offensive defensman.

I know it's only stats but looking at his previous seasons Dekeyser is not an offensive Defenseman, or at least not good enough for what we would want him for at the moment.
Last season he put up 23 points (4 Goals and 19 Assists) which for someone his age is pretty good but that was behind a Detroit forward group that was certainly performing better than ours despite significant injuries.
Tanev managed to put up 17 points (6 Goals and 11 Assists) which shows that he is finding the offensive part of his game. It's a given how poor our scoring was last season so in comparison I'm pretty happy with this.

Looking at Dekeyser's stats from the NCAA I would certainly say that again he didn't dominate. 2 Seasons of 17 points and one of 15.
He may have more offensive potential than Tanev but at the moment I'd much rather keep hold of Tanev who we know is defensively very solid and can play well with multiple members of our D-core.

 

[JuniorNelson]

Canucks did not chase an offensive defenseman. They essentially never replaced Salo.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

I know it's only stats but looking at his previous seasons Dekeyser is not an offensive Defenseman, or at least not good enough for what we would want him for at the moment.
Last season he put up 23 points (4 Goals and 19 Assists) which for someone his age is pretty good but that was behind a Detroit forward group that was certainly performing better than ours despite significant injuries.
Tanev managed to put up 17 points (6 Goals and 11 Assists) which shows that he is finding the offensive part of his game. It's a given how poor our scoring was last season so in comparison I'm pretty happy with this.

Looking at Dekeyser's stats from the NCAA I would certainly say that again he didn't dominate. 2 Seasons of 17 points and one of 15.
He may have more offensive potential than Tanev but at the moment I'd much rather keep hold of Tanev who we know is defensively very solid and can play well with multiple members of our D-core.

Thanks for the helpful input

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Our needs right now are a #2 center, an offensive dman that is good on the PP, and a E.Kane like 2nd line left winger.


Draft Barzal(#2 Center)
Trade for E.Kane(#2 LW)
Trade for Vatanen(Offensive dman)

 

[Barney Gumble]

Our needs right now are a #2 center, an offensive dman that is good on the PP, and a E.Kane like 2nd line left winger.


Draft Barzal(#2 Center)
Trade for E.Kane(#2 LW)
Trade for Vatanen(Offensive dman)

We have one. Bonino.

 

[Virtanen2Horvat]

We have one. Bonino.

Your right, we can't argue with Benning.

 

[Bankerguy]

I think the Canucks need another top 6 player who can play C and W effectively.

Sedins with Vrbata
Bonino with Kassian and a legit top6 winger would be a very good 2line
Hansen, Higgins, Burrows, Horvat, Jensen, Shinkaruk, Mathias, Gaunce...there are enough pieces there to construct a decent bottom 6

I think Eriksson would be awesomeeeee, ROR would be good too

 

[bossram]

Jamie McBain, Camp Invite...that's what i want to see.

I'd give him a contract, but a camp invite would do just fine. It's hard to imagine how a RH shooting defenceman with some PP credibility, a good shot, and some offensive instincts wouldn't be at least an upgrade over Yannick Weber. Maybe Corrado does beat him out, but i'd wager McBain is in the sort of situation where he could absolutely take a spot on this roster based on his specific skillset.

We're talking about a guy who could potentially play a bottom-pairing role, but has the PP credentials to play on the top unit here. He's no Ehrhoff...but he's as good as anyone we have outside of Edler on the PP and he offers the RH shot we badly need on that top unit.

Not a bad idea at all. But we already have Weber and Sanguinetti in the fold, who are both already competing for the #6/PP specialist spot. His P/60 on the PP were also significantly lower than Meyers/Ehrhoff (understandable but still) last season, although his career P/60 and IPP aren't bad. So who knows how good he is on the PP anyway.

His Corsi has never been great. And last season in Buffalo was horrendous (again understandable).

I think a camp invite is still a good idea. We just already have a lot of guys competing for the last RHD spot in Weber, Sanguinetti and Corrado.

 

[JuniorNelson]

It's sort of startling when you realize how many issues Byfuglien would address. If the Canucks had been able to add him this Summer I think they'd be a legit playoff contender. Adding him and Kane in one trade would have been genius if it could have been.

Really, there are a lot of things that could have happened. They didn't. They won't now. The team is going to have to actually present credentials to the hockey world before anybody accepts that they are a changed organization. If they can show it on the ice, then guys might waive to come here. That's the only way to do business, now.

 

[Bleach Clean]

Our needs right now are a #2 center, an offensive dman that is good on the PP, and a E.Kane like 2nd line left winger.


Draft Barzal(#2 Center)
Trade for E.Kane(#2 LW)
Trade for Vatanen(Offensive dman)

For the needs that can be realistically addressed this season, I think a middle-6 centre is still a priority. Doesn't have to be a #2C, although that would be great. Just someone to take the pressure off Bonino/Vey.

Weber is still fine as a #7 RH PMD. McBain over Sanguinetti would have been good, but meh. Kane is a "no-go" per management.

Just one more decent-good centre...

 

[NoShowWilly]

It's sort of startling when you realize how many issues Byfuglien would address. If the Canucks had been able to add him this Summer I think they'd be a legit playoff contender. Adding him and Kane in one trade would have been genius if it could have been.

Really, there are a lot of things that could have happened. They didn't. They won't now. The team is going to have to actually present credentials to the hockey world before anybody accepts that they are a changed organization. If they can show it on the ice, then guys might waive to come here. That's the only way to do business, now.

where do you get this idea that both those guys are available? I love your spin that the Canucks have done something wrong by not acquiring them and that it was realistically possible to make such a trade. That is a premium young winger under control for another 5 years and a RH powerplay QB. Oh and 10.5 million in capspace also

 

[Scurr]

where do you get this idea that both those guys are available? I love your spin that the Canucks have done something wrong by not acquiring them and that it was realistically possible to make such a trade. That is a premium young winger under control for another 5 years and a RH powerplay QB. Oh and 10.5 million in capspace also

I blame EA Sports.

 

[turkulad]

See how Bonino, Vey compete for the 2C spot, and then see the other one compete for the 3C spot with Horvat, Matthias, Richardson and Gaunce. That's the most economical and sensible way now that Benning has made the calls and traded for the two. Just hang in there, the number we have seen them play for the Canucks is the same it was right after they were acquired. Z E R O. You're all just trigger happy for now, how about we actually see where they line up before we decide collectively the ways in which the current core and GM is an utter failure.

 

[nuckfan insk]

See how Bonino, Vey compete for the 2C spot, and then see the other one compete for the 3C spot with Horvat, Matthias, Richardson and Gaunce. That's the most economical and sensible way now that Benning has made the calls and traded for the two. Just hang in there, the number we have seen them play for the Canucks is the same it was right after they were acquired. Z E R O. You're all just trigger happy for now, how about we actually see where they line up before we decide collectively the ways in which the current core and GM is an utter failure.

I'm excited to see the new guys give it a go. I'm more interested on who and how we make room for them ?
Guys I could see moving to make room
Hansen to Winnipeg for lipon and a second or third
Burrows if he returns to form quickly would be a fit on the wing in Montreal (not just cuz he's French)
I'd be hesitant to move Higgins unless the right deal came along

I don't see us needing to make room on d. I'm hopeful to see a all star edler again and if sbisa can prove his worth.

 

[LiquidSnake]

Our needs right now are a #2 center, an offensive dman that is good on the PP, and a E.Kane like 2nd line left winger.


Draft Barzal(#2 Center)
Trade for E.Kane(#2 LW)
Trade for Vatanen(Offensive dman)

You forgot step 1. Drug induced fantasy

 

[Barney Gumble]

Your right, we can't argue with Benning.

Where did I say that?

And I sure as heck ain't one of those that's been drinking the Benning Kool-Aid; but that doesn't mean I disagree with all his moves either. Doesn't have to be a black & white view.

 

[Canadian Canuck]

Would love to replicate our 2010-2011 team.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Raymond-Kesler-Samuelsson
Higgins-Hodgson-Hansen
Torres-Malholtra-Lapierre
Glass/Oreskovich

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Ehrhoff
Ballard-Salo
Tanev

Lu
Schneider


Trade Tanev + Burrows + Markstrom + 2nd 2015 for E.Kane
Trade Jensen + Richardsson for Vatanen
Trade 3rd 2016 + Sestito for Clifford

Sedin-Sedin-Kassian
Kane-Bonino-Vrbata
Higgins-Vey-Hansen
Clifford-Matthias-Dorsett
Gaunce

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Vatanen
Sbisa-Corrado
Stanton

Miller
Lack


This is a pipe dream so don't frack out

 

[Shareefruck]

Would love to replicate our 2010-2011 team.

Sedin-Sedin-Burrows
Raymond-Kesler-Samuelsson
Higgins-Hodgson-Hansen
Torres-Malholtra-Lapierre
Glass/Oreskovich

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Ehrhoff
Ballard-Salo
Tanev

Lu
Schneider


Trade Tanev + Burrows + Markstrom + 2nd 2015 for E.Kane
Trade Jensen + Richardsson for Vatanen
Trade 3rd 2016 + Sestito for Clifford

Sedin-Sedin-Kassian
Kane-Bonino-Vrbata
Higgins-Vey-Hansen
Clifford-Matthias-Dorsett
Gaunce

Hamhuis-Bieksa
Edler-Vatanen
Sbisa-Corrado
Stanton

Miller
Lack


This is a pipe dream so don't frack out

Hodgson barely played in 2010-2011-- You might be mixing that up with the year after. And I'm not sure how your roster mimics it to be honest.