The All Encompassing Evander Kane Thread IV [MOD WARNING IN OP]

[YWGinYYZ]

Continued from: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1827601

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From Jet, from the previous thread:


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[StronGeer]

Continued from: http://hfboards.mandatory.com/showthread.php?t=1827601

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I critique this post because it got mine deleted

 

[allan5oh]

Kane out means no playoff teams want him. We quality roster players in return and no playoff team will give that up for a sidelined player.

 

[Derfel*]

Kane out 4-6 months... which on the long end puts him ready for conditioning in early August. What sort of trade are we going to make in August? Is there ever an opportunity to trade an injured player?

 

[Whileee]

No way the Jets get best value during the season. They lose a top forward for the playoff run. The bottom-6 is now bottom of the barrel in the league, and it will cost a lot in futures to make it decent (adding a decent 3rd line RW won't cut it now that Kane is gone).

As a fan and STH I'll have to be content that the Jets have a good "room", as I watch Stuart, Thorburn, etc. bumble around the ice.

 

[Hank Chinaski]

Ouch. Bye-bye three line hockey team.

 

[irunthepeg]

Good. Things can cool down over 4-6 months and maybe relationships can be repaired during that time.

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Kane out means no playoff teams want him. We quality roster players in return and no playoff team will give that up for a sidelined player.

Buffalo would be the perfect trade partner, as someone else was mentioning. They could take a flyer on Kane, and remove NHL ready players from the line-up to solidify their tank position.

Just not sure there's anything that we'd be interested in, outside of the prospects and picks that they covet.

 

[JetsFan815]

I critique this post because it got mine deleted

Keeps going from bad to worse for the Jets. As they say, when it rains it pours. I need to buy more Xanax today

 

[Puckatron 3000]

Yeah, I can't see how trading Kane while injured, and in the middle of this controversy would result in any reasonable offers.

Let him deal with the shoulder, see if things blow over, and check the offers in the off-season.

 

[CaptainChef]

You're probably right, but I'd like to hear both sides of the story. Right now Kane is getting completely ripped coast-to-coast, and hasn't shared his side of the story. At the very least, I'd like to hear the sequence of events.

I don't really care what the sequence of events were - Kane comes out as a loser here. Not bad enough he has to continuously keep attracting attention to himself & his ego with the money shots and publicity stunts,...

When he deliberately shows up at the rink in a track suit, its says one of two things:
a) I was at a a party or sleep-over all night & didn't have time to go home & get my suit, or
b) I don't give a dam about your rules -- I make my own.

He challenged the system & lost. Be assured he has challenged it many times before. Mgmt has certainly had enough of his antics; the guys also decided enough was enough.

The rest is history -- don't let the door hit you in the azz on the way out. Buff may not have been completely right to take it on himself to do what he did, but someone from the team needed to put Kane in his place & Buff did.

 

[cheswick]

Hopefully he'll get back in time for the SC finals...

Really, the question now becomes was the surgery decision a result of the happenings in Vancouver, or would it have been made regardless. Or was his decision not to play in Vancouver due to this injury

 

[mzappa]

Had thought they'd make the deal now, and both sides would be happy with the divorce. Odd.

 

[StronGeer]

Buffalo would be the perfect trade partner, as someone else was mentioning. They could take a flyer on Kane, and remove NHL ready players from the line-up to solidify their tank position.

Just not sure there's anything that we'd be interested in, outside of the prospects and picks that they covet.

Thing is I think they already have that on lockdown, and any further assets they lose would just dig them a deeper hole to get out of later.

I'd sure like Myers though.

 

[Derfel*]

Had thought they'd make the deal now, and both sides would be happy with the divorce. Odd.

My guess would be that teams made offers that Chevy didn't like or thought wasn't fair, and Kane was told as much... so he shut it down. That, or the doctors couldn't give Kane a healthy "bill of sale" for the teams that asked for it, so instead they decided to fix the problem for a future deal in the off-season.

Either way, the team loses.

 

[rkp]

well...is just great...well, the jets and PoMo have their work cut out for them...and we will see how this team bonds after this incident and loss of a player...they haven't done well previously without him, a loss against Van most recently.

 

[Whileee]

I don't really care what the sequence of events were - Kane comes out as a loser here. Not bad enough he has to continuously keep attracting attention to himself & his ego with the money shots and publicity stunts,...

When he deliberately shows up at the rink in a track suit, its says one of two things:
a) I was at a a party or sleep-over all night & didn't have time to go home & get my suit, or
b) I don't give a dam about your rules -- I make my own.

He challenged the system & lost. Be assured he has challenged it many times before. Mgmt has certainly had enough of his antics; the guys also decided enough was enough.

The rest is history -- don't let the door hit you in the azz on the way out. Buff may not have been completely right to take it on himself to do what he did, but someone from the team needed to put Kane in his place & Buff did.

.... still waiting for the "leadership" to put Buff in his place for coming to camp every other season out of shape. Who puts Buff "in his place"?

Players wanted Kane off the team. They got their wish. Chevy gets screwed and fans have to live with a much less competitive team.

 

[mzappa]

Chevy needs to make a move now. Don't think the Jets can hold the playoff position with a Kane-less/no-trade roster ...thoughts?

 

[sting13]

Now that Kane is out can the Jets add Burmi when his season is over?
Is his team in the playoff hunt.

 

[KingBogo]

Kane out 4-6 months... which on the long end puts him ready for conditioning in early August. What sort of trade are we going to make in August? Is there ever an opportunity to trade an injured player?

Yes. He will have had his surgery and will be recovering nicely. He will be in play in the run up to the draft where he will likely be dealt.

 

[Donald]

So he went from able to play, to out for the season with shoulder surgery based on an off-ice issue with teammates.

That confirms what we'd always suspected but I'd hoped wasn't the case: Kane is a loser. Good riddance. Too bad he wasn't traded earlier. But I can't fault Chevy, because I never wanted him gone before either.

 

[CaptainChef]

Buffalo would be the perfect trade partner, as someone else was mentioning. They could take a flyer on Kane, and remove NHL ready players from the line-up to solidify their tank position.

Just not sure there's anything that we'd be interested in, outside of the prospects and picks that they covet.

Stafford ++

 

[YWGinYYZ]

Thing is I think they already have that on lockdown, and any further assets they lose would just dig them a deeper hole to get out of later.

I'd sure like Myers though.

Then how about one of the other teams in the running for the final spot? Maybe one of them want to kick things up a notch. That would leave:

Arizona
Carolina
Columbus
New Jersey
Ottawa
Philly
Toronto

If any of them are looking to truly descend in the rankings, and want to shake things up, this could be the perfect elixer.

 

[Ducky10]

This is where I'm at now.

 

[CBJSlash]

I know you guys want to make a run and Kane is now useless this year (although he has big long term value) I think the CBJ might be one of the few trade fits given our attitude toward next year and our disaster of a season.

Anything interest around something built with...

Artem Anisimov / Cam Atkinson + Kevin Connaughton / Dalton Prout / Cody Goloubef for E. Kane and a conditional pick based on games played next year?