The 20/21 Canucks Stat Tracking Thread

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So let's rock and roll on the next thread where I predict our players' point totals based on their last 3 seasons of play and update a table every 5 games so we can track their season against my prediction. I'm going to base my stats off the percentage of games our skaters played in those seasons and project that to our, hopefully, 56 game season that starts tonight. I'll also add columns for an 82 game season as that'll be a lot easier to compare to a normal season. To avoid weirdness with rookies who got a few games at the end of a season I'll be skipping those awkward first seasons.

Also, yes I know these predictions will be off right from the start of the season as J.T. Miller is set to miss more games in a shortened season than he missed over the past 3. That's why this is mostly for fun and so we can always look back and see who was hot, cold, or in between over a 5-game stretch. It's not serious so sit back, relax, and prepare to read a big table of numbers!


Name

GP

G

A

P

GP/82

G/82

A/82

P/82

Elias Pettersson

52

21

29

50

75

30

42

72

Brock Boeser

45

17

20

37

66

25

30

55

J.T. Miller

54

15

27

42

80

22

40

62

Bo Horvat

52

17

21

38

76

25

31

56

Tanner Pearson

56

13

14

27

82

19

21

40

Jake Virtanen

51

10

9

19

75

15

13

28

Adam Gaudette

43

6

10

16

62

9

15

24

Brandon Sutter

31

5

6

11

46

8

9

17

Antoine Roussel

43

5

10

15

63

7

14

21

Tyler Motte

37

4

3

7

54

6

5

11

Jay Beagle

46

3

7

10

67

4

11

15

Loui Eriksson

43

7

9

16

63

10

13

23

Zack MacEwen

14

4

1

5

20

6

1

7

Justin Bailey

6

1

0

1

9

1

1

2

Nils Hoglander

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Mark Michaelis

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Hog + Mich + ??

99

15

16

31

146

24

24

48

FW Totals

-

143

182

-

-

211

270

-

Quinn Hughes

55

6

36

42

81

10

54

64

Nate Schmidt

47

5

18

23

69

7

27

34

Alex Edler

44

5

19

24

65

7

28

35

Tyler Myers

55

5

16

21

81

7

24

31

Travis Hamonic

46

3

7

10

68

4

11

15

Jordie Benn

49

2

8

10

71

4

12

16

Olli Juolevi

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Jalen Chatfield

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

G. Brisebois

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

B. Rafferty

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Jack Rathbone

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

Rookie D + ??

40

8

38

46

57

12

58

70

D Totals

-

34

142

-

-

51

174

-

Team Totals

-

177

-

-

-

262

-

-
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The forwards that I can generate data for account for 573 of an expected 672 needed man-games this season. This means that between Hoglander and Michaelis there are 99 man-games to go around. These games could also go to players already accounted for if they are healthy or on the bench more and in the press box less or they could go to players not currently accounted for.

The defense I can generate data for account for 296 of an expected 336 needed man-games for this season. The data it generates is garbage as it expects exactly a Quiin Hughes sized gap to be made up in our defense which none of our rookies are expected to produce. I included it because it's funny; if I were to be more serious I'd average the impact of non-roster players over the past 3 seasons like I do with player stats and get a more reasonable number.

Anyway, I don't have more time to work on this so if there are any typos please point them out and I'll update this post after I'm off work.
 

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Here it is! The first 5 games of the season on a chart. Please try not to applaud too hard.


Name

GP

G

A

P

p/GP

p/G

p/A

p/P

PS/PPG

P/PPG

Elias Pettersson

5

0

1

1

56

0

11

11

0.962

0.200

Brock Boeser

5

4

1

5

56

45

11

56

0.822

1.000

J.T. Miller

2

0

4

4

22

0

44

44

0.778

2.000

Bo Horvat

5

3

2

5

56

34

22

56

0.731

1.000

Tanner Pearson

5

0

2

2

56

0

22

22

0.481

0.400

Jake Virtanen

5

1

0

1

56

11

0

11

0.373

0.200

Adam Gaudette

5

1

0

1

56

11

0

11

0.372

0.200

Brandon Sutter

5

0

0

0

56

0

0

0

0.355

0.000

Antoine Roussel

5

0

1

1

56

0

11

11

0.349

0.200

Tyler Motte

5

2

0

2

56

22

0

22

0.189

0.400

Jay Beagle

5

0

0

0

56

0

0

0

0.217

0.000

Loui Eriksson

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

0.372

-.---

Zack MacEwen

3

0

0

0

34

0

0

0

0.357

0.000

Justin Bailey

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

0.167

-.---

Nils Hoglander

5

1

0

1

56

11

0

11

-.---

0.200

Mark Michaelis

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-.---

-.---

Hog + Mich + ??

5

1

0

1

56

11

0

11

-.---

0.200

FW Totals

-

12

-

-

-

134

-

-

2.554

2.400

Quinn Hughes

5

0

5

5

56

0

56

56

0.764

1.000

Nate Schmidt

5

1

0

1

56

11

0

11

0.489

0.200

Alex Edler

5

0

1

1

56

0

11

11

0.545

0.200

Tyler Myers

5

1

1

2

56

11

11

22

0.382

0.400

Travis Hamonic

5

0

2

2

56

0

22

22

0.217

0.400

Jordie Benn

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

0.204

-.---

Olli Juolevi

4

0

0

0

45

0

0

0

-.---

0.000

Jalen Chatfield

1

0

0

0

11

0

0

0

-.---

0.000

G. Brisebois

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-.---

-.---

B. Rafferty

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-.---

-.---

Jack Rathbone

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-

-.---

-.---

Rookie D + ??

5

0

0

0

56

0

0

0

-.---

0.00

D Totals

-

2

-

-

-

22

-

-

0.607

0.400

Team Totals

-

14

-

-

-

156

-

-

3.16

2.786
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You'll notice a few changes from last season. The first being that I'm comparing my preseason predicted points per game (PS/PPG) to each player's projected points per game (P/PPG) rather than current points to predicted points. I made the change because it better accounts for a difference in expect games played and the games players actually play and because it's likely a bit more interesting for all of you than a simple +/- current points to projected points would be. If you want to see both I can do that so let me know what you think.

As for how our 5 games went, the record says we went 2 - 3 - 0 but after that third loss it felt like it was going to be nothing but losses for the rest of the season. Our only 'pretty' win so far is the season opener against the hot or cold Oilers.

Likewise, we had a long streak of bad special teams performances. The PK is still bad but our PP outburst againts Montreal was enough to move us into a massive tie for 8th in PP GF with 3 goals. Too bad a single game can't fix the team's bad conversion rate; a rate that has us in a 3-way tie for 20th with Edmonton and Detroit. The PK without any such bump is in 27th place preventing goals at a 63.6% rate due to allowing 8 goals on 22 attempts.

Goaltending hasn't exactly been a strength for the Canucks thus far. Holtby is in 36th place among all goaltenders with a 0.892 sv% and Demko is 43rd with a 0.883 sv%. It's too early to panic based on a small sample size but it hits harder when Markstrom and the Flames have hit thr ground running to start the season.

Anyway, that wraps up this 5-game recap. See you in the next one!
 

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Looking like Boeser’s shot is back. He will score 30+ this year.
Hughes is on pace for a PPG year. I’m seeing 60 + for him.
Petey, although struggling now, will get 50+ points.
Bo is looking great! 20+ goals and 40+ points.
Miller is our best (overall) player.
Schmidt is really good.
The rest of our team (imo) is craperolla so far.
 

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Looking like Boeser’s shot is back. He will score 30+ this year.
Hughes is on pace for a PPG year. I’m seeing 60 + for him.
Petey, although struggling now, will get 50+ points.
Bo is looking great! 20+ goals and 40+ points.
Miller is our best (overall) player.
Schmidt is really good.
The rest of our team (imo) is craperolla so far.
It's hard to disagree that we've had our share of disappointing players to start the season. The good news is we've at least got kids on the back end that could rotate in on D. The forwards are is what they are though barring a trade.
 
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NameGPGAPp/GPp/Gp/Ap/PPS/PPGP/PPG
Elias Pettersson10336561717340.9620.600
Brock Boeser10639563417510.8220.900
J.T. Miller7279391139500.7781.286
Bo Horvat105510562828560.7311.000
Tanner Pearson10235561117280.4810.500
Jake Virtanen9101516060.3730.111
Adam Gaudette7101396060.3720.143
Brandon Sutter1040456220220.3550.400
Antoine Roussel1002256011110.3490.200
Tyler Motte1050556280280.1890.500
Jay Beagle1003356017170.2170.300
Loui Eriksson--------0.372-.---
Zack MacEwen700090000.3570.000
Justin Bailey--------0.167-.---
Nils Hoglander1023556111728-.---0.500
Mark Michaelis---------.----.---
Hog + Mich + ??1023556111728-.---0.500
FW Totals-31---174--2.5543.100
Quinn Hughes101101156656620.7641.100
Nate Schmidt101125666120.4890.200
Alex Edler902250011110.5450.222
Tyler Myers1015656628340.3820.600
Travis Hamonic502228011110.2170.400
Jordie Benn402222011110.2040.500
Olli Juolevi710139606-.---0.143
Jalen Chatfield400011000-.---0.000
G. Brisebois---------.----.---
B. Rafferty10116606-.---1.000
Jack Rathbone---------.----.---
Rookie D + ??12112676612-.---0.167
D Totals-4---30--0.6070.400
Team Totals-35---204--3.163.500
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Here's the table. I'll add in the 'interesting' comments when I'm home from work.
 

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NameGPGAPp/GPp/Gp/Ap/PPS/PPGP/PPG
Elias Pettersson10336561717340.9620.600
Brock Boeser10639563417510.8220.900
J.T. Miller7279391139500.7781.286
Bo Horvat105510562828560.7311.000
Tanner Pearson10235561117280.4810.500
Jake Virtanen9101516060.3730.111
Adam Gaudette7101396060.3720.143
Brandon Sutter1040456220220.3550.400
Antoine Roussel1002256011110.3490.200
Tyler Motte1050556280280.1890.500
Jay Beagle1003356017170.2170.300
Loui Eriksson--------0.372-.---
Zack MacEwen700090000.3570.000
Justin Bailey--------0.167-.---
Nils Hoglander1023556111728-.---0.500
Mark Michaelis---------.----.---
Hog + Mich + ??1023556111728-.---0.500
FW Totals-31---174--2.5543.100
Quinn Hughes101101156656620.7641.100
Nate Schmidt101125666120.4890.200
Alex Edler902250011110.5450.222
Tyler Myers1015656628340.3820.600
Travis Hamonic502228011110.2170.400
Jordie Benn402222011110.2040.500
Olli Juolevi710139606-.---0.143
Jalen Chatfield400011000-.---0.000
G. Brisebois---------.----.---
B. Rafferty10116606-.---1.000
Jack Rathbone---------.----.---
Rookie D + ??12112676612-.---0.167
D Totals-4---30--0.6070.400
Team Totals-35---204--3.163.500
[TBODY] [/TBODY]
Here's the table. I'll add in the 'interesting' comments when I'm home from work.
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So we had five games where we went 2 - 3 and then five where we went 3 - 2. The difference is that we played the Senators three games straight in the second set and they look like a team that just wants to hit the showers the moment anything at all doesn't go their way. We can't take much away from beating a bad team 16 - 3 over three games, but maybe we can be happy that no other team shelled them quite as hard.

Thanks to the stats boost the Canucks are now looking a little bit better. We're even in goal differential (if you count a shootout goal), scoring 3.5 goals per game (ignore that we've allowed 3.6 per game), and have dragged our special teams stats out of the basement into 21st (PP) and 14th (PK). We're close to the top of the league for 5v5 goals per game (2.7) while only giving up (2.2) 5v5 goals per game both of which are good stats to see. Can we keep them there without a team rolling over and letting us pad our stats? We'll need to wait and see.

Goaltending is also trending upwards. Demko and Holtby are both rocking low-end starters numbers now for sv% with Demko ranking 25th and Holtby at 28th for goalies who've played more than one game. These aren't amazing numbers but they were both sub .900 in our last review so, baby steps.

We'll know more about how this team looks in another 5 games so I'll see you all then!
 

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We stink. Have some stats that only measure offense so you can pretend we're doing okay. I'll do a write-up 5-games from now if the team deserves it.

NameGPGAPp/GPp/Gp/Ap/PPS/PPGp/PPG
Elias Pettersson154610561522370.9620.667
Brock Boeser159514563419530.8220.933
J.T. Miller1231013451137480.7781.083
Bo Horvat156612562222440.7310.800
Tanner Pearson15448561515300.4810.533
Jake Virtanen11101414040.3730.091
Adam Gaudette11202417070.3720.182
Brandon Sutter1540456150150.3550.266
Antoine Roussel151235647110.3490.200
Tyler Motte1551656184220.1890.400
Jay Beagle1514556415190.2170.333
Loui Eriksson100040000.3720.000
Zack MacEwen10101374040.3570.100
Justin Bailey100040000.1670.000
Nils Hoglander1534756111526-.---0.466
Mark Michaelis---------.----.---
Hog + Mich + ??1534756111526-.---0.466
FW Totals-44---164--2.5542.933
Quinn Hughes151151656456600.7641.067
Nate Schmidt151235647110.4890.200
Alex Edler1404452015150.5450.286
Tyler Myers1515656418220.3820.400
Travis Hamonic5022180770.2170.400
Jordie Benn903334011110.2040.333
Olli Juolevi710126404-.---0.143
Jalen Chatfield900033000-.---0.000
G. Brisebois---------.----.---
B. Rafferty10114404-.---1.000
Jack Rathbone---------.----.---
Rookie D + ??1711263448-.---0.118
D Totals-4---15--0.6070.266
Team Totals-48---179--3.163.200
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Maybe change the p/gp column header to reflect that it’s based on a 82gp pace

P/82gp
Anything with p/ in front of it is projected. p/GP is projected games played based on how many games they're played thus far in the season. All the p/ columns are simple projections based on the players scoring pace as of that 5 game chunk of the season.

PS/PPG is my Preseason Prediction for each player's PPG by the end of the season.

p/PPG is just the player's percentage of points tallied compared to their number of games played at the time I make the updated table.
 

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We still have a ways to go but we've shown enough signs of life to be worthy of a write-up this segment.

NameGPGAPp/GPp/Gp/Ap/PPS/PPGP/PPG
Elias Pettersson205914561425390.9620.700
Brock Boeser2012921563425590.8221.050
J.T. Miller1741216481134450.7780.941
Bo Horvat208715562220420.7310.750
Tanner Pearson20549561411250.4810.450
Jake Virtanen15101423030.3730.067
Adam Gaudette16202456060.3720.125
Brandon Sutter2050556140140.3550.250
Antoine Roussel19123533690.3490.158
Tyler Motte1551642143170.1890.375
Jay Beagle2014556311140.2170.250
Loui Eriksson4011110330.3720.250
Zack MacEwen11101323030.3570.091
Justin Bailey300080000.1670.000
Nils Hoglander203695681725-.---0.450
Mark Michaelis---------.----.---
Hog + Mich + ??203695681725-.---0.450
FW Totals-53---149--2.5542.650
Quinn Hughes202182056650560.7641.000
Nate Schmidt202245666120.4890.200
Alex Edler1904452012120.5450.210
Tyler Myers20281056622280.3820.500
Travis Hamonic5022140660.2170.400
Jordie Benn141343938110.2040.286
Olli Juolevi1210134303-.---0.083
Jalen Chatfield900025000-.---0.000
G. Brisebois---------.----.---
B. Rafferty10113303-.---1.000
Jack Rathbone---------.----.---
Rookie D + ??2211262336-.---0.091
D Totals-8---27--0.6070.400
Team Totals-61---176--3.163.050
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The team's splits thus far have been:

2 - 3 - 0
3 - 2 - 0
1 - 4 - 0
2 - 2 - 1

This leaves our record at 8 - 11 - 1 which isn't good enough to be in the dance and isn't poor enough to be worth a high draft pick. This team needs to pick a direction and fast or else we risk spending a year in no-man's-land. Many predicted we'd take exactly this step back this season but I think this team has the tools to be better than what we've seen thus far but needs to start using them ASAP.

The stats say we're a middling offensive team with a GF/GP of 3.05 good enough for 15th in the league. Defensively we're putrid, if it weren't for the Senators we'd have the worst GA/GP in the league at 3.6 per game. Special teams offer a faint glimmer of hope if only because we're scoring so well even though or PP is ranked 20th with a 17.1% conversion rate. Even the PK has headed the right way operating at an 82.3% rate good for 11th in the league. The bad news is that this means we're even worse at 5-on-5 defense than our GA/GP would indicate.

If our GA/GP is terrible what does that say about our goaltending? Nothing good. When sorted to remove goalies with less than 5 games played, Holtby and Demko are neck and neck with a 0.896 and 0.895 sv%, which's "good" for 35th and T36th place respectively. It gets worse in terms of GAA with both Holtby and Demko sitting below 40th place among goalies. This says that we're allowing way too many shots and dangerous scoring chances per game which isn't a surprise to anybody who's been watching games this season.

If this team is to have any hope of winning games they need to play a more disciplined game. No more D-men pinching at the blue line only to miss the puck and let an odd-man rush go towards our net. No more standing still at our own blue line and just letting the other team chip the puck past us for easy possession. We need to instill the same uptempo that Green wants in the offensive zone into our neutral zone and defensive zone play. We have enough offensive skill to score on the counter-attack and enough footspeed to draw penalties that we shouldn't need to press so hard for offense.

TLDR; We must be better defensively at 5-on-5 and it would help if the PP started working at a better rate.
 
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Well, we sucked on toast these past 5 games going 1 - 3 - 1 putting our total record to 9 - 14 - 2. We literally need to win 5 in a row to get back to .500 and that's pathetic.
NameGPGAPp/GPp/Gp/Ap/PPS/PPGP/PPG
Elias Pettersson2591120562025450.9620.800
Brock Boeser25121123562725520.8220.920
J.T. Miller2251520491133440.7780.909
Bo Horvat259716562016360.7310.640
Tanner Pearson2554956119200.4810.360
Jake Virtanen20101452020.3730.050
Adam Gaudette21224474480.3720.190
Brandon Sutter2561756132150.3550.280
Antoine Roussel24123542570.3490.125
Tyler Motte1551634112130.1890.375
Jay Beagle251455629110.2170.200
Loui Eriksson5011110220.3720.200
Zack MacEwen14101312020.3570.071
Justin Bailey300070000.1670.000
Nils Hoglander2546105691322-.---0.400
J. Hawrlyuk10002000-.---0.000
Hog + Others2646105891322-.---0.385
FW Totals-61---137--2.5542.440
Quinn Hughes252192156443470.7640.840
Nate Schmidt253475679160.4890.280
Alex Edler24044540990.5450.167
Tyler Myers25391256720270.3820.480
Travis Hamonic7022160550.2170.286
Jordie Benn1915643211130.2040.316
Olli Juolevi1510134202-.---0.067
Jalen Chatfield900020000-.---0.000
G. Brisebois---------.----.---
B. Rafferty10112202-.---1.000
Rookie D + ??2511256224-.---0.080
D Totals-10---22--0.6070.400
Team Totals-71---159--3.162.840
[TBODY] [/TBODY]

We've gone from middling offensively to below-average dropping from 3.05 GF/GP to 2.84 GF/GP good for a mere 20th in the league. Defensively we've improved all the way from 2nd worst in the league giving up 3.6 GA/GP to 3rd worst giving up 3.4 GA/GP. If we keep up this pace we can be merely bottom 10 by the end of the season! The PP is still stone cold having dropped from 17.1% to 16.7% and moving from 20th to 23rd. The PK also cooled dropping from 82.3% to 80.9% but our ranking held steady at 11th overall. Unless the PP finds a way to produce this team is exactly as doomed as it looks.

Goaltending is actually a bright spot. Demko has improved his sv% from 0.895 to 0.907, had he stayed there he would be alone in 40th for sv% among goalies with 7 games played but he's shot all the way up to 20th. His GAA has stayed close to where it was last post sitting at 3.06 which is only good for 37th but given the team he's in front of he's a bright spot. If Demko is doing 'well' and still putting up a terrible GAA dare we even look at Holtby? I dare. He's bad, 3.51 GAA puts him 46th out of 50 goalies who've played 7 or more games and his 0.893 sv% is just as bad ranking 42nd. I had hopes he could be at least average, but he blows and we get to enjoy his presence next season so plan the parade.

TLDR; the stats are as terrible as our record suggests.
 

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I'm cutting things close here with game 31 on the horizon, but here we go.

We went 3 - 2 in our last 5 games. Sadly this is only our second 5 game stretch where we've gone above .500 and in both of those spans we went 3 - 2. We need to go 4 - 0 - 1 or better in this next 5 game stretch to reach a .500 record and I'm not sure if I can picture that happening.

If that wasn't enough look at our roster, of the players I have predictions for only 3 of them are performing better than predicted. If you add in Hoglander's 20 point pace as a plus that's 4. On defense it's no better, only Hughes, Myers, and Benn are above-predicted points paces and they're not up by enough to cancel out Edler and Schmidt not finding points.

NameGPGAPp/GPp/Gp/Ap/PPS/PPGP/PPG
Elias Pettersson26101121491921400.9620.808
Brock Boeser30141529562628540.8220.967
J.T. Miller2771825501333460.7780.926
Bo Horvat3011920562117380.7310.667
Tanner Pearson305495697160.4810.300
Jake Virtanen25303476060.3730.120
Adam Gaudette263364966120.3720.231
Brandon Sutter3061756112130.3550.233
Antoine Roussel29123542460.3490.103
Tyler Motte1551628102120.1890.375
Jay Beagle30145562790.2170.167
Loui Eriksson501190220.3720.200
Zack MacEwen15101282020.3570.067
Justin Bailey300060000.1670.000
Nils Hoglander3056115691120-.---0.333
J. Hawrlyuk50009000-.---0.000
M. Michaelis40007000-.---0.000
Hog + Others3956107391120-.---0.256
FW Totals-72---134--2.5542.400
Quinn Hughes302222456441450.7640.800
Nate Schmidt3036956611170.4890.300
Alex Edler2906654011110.5450.207
Tyler Myers303101356619250.3820.433
Travis Hamonic10022200440.2170.200
Jordie Benn241564529110.2040.250
Olli Juolevi1510128202-.---0.067
Jalen Chatfield900017000-.---0.000
G. Brisebois---------.----.---
B. Rafferty10112202-.---1.000
Rookie D + ??2511247224-.---0.080
D Totals-10---19--0.6070.333
Team Totals-82---153--3.162.733
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We've gone from below-average offensively to slightly worse dropping from 2.84 GF/GP to 2.73 GF/GP which is still "good" for 20th in the league. Defensively we've improved by another 0.1 GA/GP which is enough to make us only the 6th worst defensive team in the league. If we maintain the defense and see an offensive bump when (if?) Pettersson comes back we could see enough of an improvement to narrowly miss the playoffs and screw our draft selection up. The PP has found some success rising back to a 20% scoring rate but that's still only good for 19th. The PK mostly stayed the same slipping from 80.9% to 80.4% but that was enough to drop us to 13th in the league. The PP produced by our 5-on-5 offense is dire without Pettersson.

Demko keeps powering up pushing his save percentage up from .907 to .914 which places him at 14th in the league. His GAA has also improved to 2.87 which jumps him from 37th to 26th. He's playing like a star given how bad his start was and it makes me wonder what our record might have been if we got him into a grove early rather than splitting the net with Holtby. Speaking of Holtby, he's still awful with a 0.893 sv% and 3.56 GAA. The second-year on his deal looks worse by the game.

TLDR; Demko has put the team on his back and is trying to carry us but unless we can find some offense he's doomed to fail.
 
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I'm cutting things close here with game 31 on the horizon, but here we go.

We went 3 - 2 in our last 5 games. Sadly this is only our second 5 game stretch where we've gone above .500 and in both of those spans we went 3 - 2. We need to go 4 - 0 - 1 or better in this next 5 game stretch to reach a .500 record and I'm not sure if I can picture that happening.

If that wasn't enough look at our roster, of the players I have predictions for only 3 of them are performing better than predicted. If you add in Hoglander's 20 point pace as a plus that's 4. On defense it's no better, only Hughes, Myers, and Benn are above-predicted points paces and they're not up by enough to cancel out Edler and Schmidt not finding points.

NameGPGAPp/GPp/Gp/Ap/PPS/PPGP/PPG
Elias Pettersson26101121491921400.9620.808
Brock Boeser30141529562628540.8220.967
J.T. Miller2771825501333460.7780.926
Bo Horvat3011920562117380.7310.667
Tanner Pearson305495697160.4810.300
Jake Virtanen25303476060.3730.120
Adam Gaudette263364966120.3720.231
Brandon Sutter3061756112130.3550.233
Antoine Roussel29123542460.3490.103
Tyler Motte1551628102120.1890.375
Jay Beagle30145562790.2170.167
Loui Eriksson501190220.3720.200
Zack MacEwen15101282020.3570.067
Justin Bailey300060000.1670.000
Nils Hoglander3056115691120-.---0.333
J. Hawrlyuk50009000-.---0.000
M. Michaelis40007000-.---0.000
Hog + Others3956107391120-.---0.256
FW Totals-72---134--2.5542.400
Quinn Hughes302222456441450.7640.800
Nate Schmidt3036956611170.4890.300
Alex Edler2906654011110.5450.207
Tyler Myers303101356619250.3820.433
Travis Hamonic10022200440.2170.200
Jordie Benn241564529110.2040.250
Olli Juolevi1510128202-.---0.067
Jalen Chatfield900017000-.---0.000
G. Brisebois---------.----.---
B. Rafferty10112202-.---1.000
Rookie D + ??2511247224-.---0.080
D Totals-10---19--0.6070.333
Team Totals-82---153--3.162.733
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We've gone from below-average offensively to slightly worse dropping from 2.84 GF/GP to 2.73 GF/GP which is still "good" for 20th in the league. Defensively we've improved by another 0.1 GA/GP which is enough to make us only the 6th worst defensive team in the league. If we maintain the defense and see an offensive bump when (if?) Pettersson comes back we could see enough of an improvement to narrowly miss the playoffs and screw our draft selection up. The PP has found some success rising back to a 20% scoring rate but that's still only good for 19th. The PK mostly stayed the same slipping from 80.9% to 80.4% but that was enough to drop us to 13th in the league. The PP produced by our 5-on-5 offense is dire without Pettersson.

Demko keeps powering up pushing his save percentage up from .907 to .914 which places him at 14th in the league. His GAA has also improved to 2.87 which jumps him from 37th to 26th. He's playing like a star given how bad his start was and it makes me wonder what our record might have been if we got him into a grove early rather than splitting the net with Holtby. Speaking of Holtby, he's still awful with a 0.893 sv% and 3.56 GAA. The second-year on his deal looks worse by the game.

TLDR; Demko has put the team on his back and is trying to carry us but unless we can find some offense he's doomed to fail.
Pretty impressive to see Brock Boeser still at around PPG even tho went like 10 games without a goal - wasnt really struggling during that streth just not getting the goals
 
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Looking at the stats of our bottom 6 forwards is super depressing:

Sutter 7 pts in 30 games
Gaudette 6 in 26
Motte 6 in 15
Beagle 5 in 30
Virtanen 3 in 25
Roussell 3 in 29
Macewan 1 in 15
Eriksson 1 in 5

Also doesnt help that Pearson as our 6th best forward has only 9 points :help:
 
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Looking at the stats of our bottom 6 forwards is super depressing:

Sutter 7 pts in 30 games
Gaudette 6 in 26
Motte 6 in 15
Beagle 5 in 30
Virtanen 3 in 25
Roussell 3 in 29
Macewan 1 in 15
Eriksson 1 in 5

Also doesnt help that Pearson as our 6th best forward has only 9 points :help:
I wouldn't lump in Motte with the rest. If he stayed on pace, as unlikely as that is, he'd be ahead of Pearson right now.
 
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For those of you missing this would you rather I bring this back at game 40 or do a 'mid-season' breakdown as we've hit our scheduled break? I'm leaning towards just doing one now, but if people want to keep the numbers clean I'm 100% down with that too.
 

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This one's a bit off schedule at game 42, but after that COVID bought I'm feeling about as drained as the team must have felt, but, just like them, I'll play out the string.

Since our last update back at game 30 our record has been 7 - 4 - 1 which is well above our pace for the season. We're still in tough to make the dance but if we can keep up a ~0.650 points percentage moving forward we have a good shot.

That all said Pettersson is done for the season and almost nobody is performing above my expectations. Combine that with the schedule and Demko being banged up and we could just as easily freefall down the league's standings. I'm leaning tank myself even given the odd circumstances surrounding this draft class.

NameGPGAPp/GPp/Gp/Ap/PPS/PPGP/PPG
Elias Pettersson26101121351315280.9620.808
Brock Boeser42172037562327500.8220.881
J.T. Miller39102333521331440.7780.846
Bo Horvat42161632562121420.7310.762
Tanner Pearson38951451127190.4810.368
Jake Virtanen36404485050.3730.111
Adam Gaudette*32437324370.3720.219
Brandon Sutter40831153114150.3550.275
Antoine Roussel35134471450.3490.114
Tyler Motte226282983110.1890.364
Jay Beagle30145401560.2170.167
Loui Eriksson701190110.3720.142
Zack MacEwen23112311120.3570.087
Justin Bailey300040000.1670.000
Jimmy Vesey800011000-.---0.000
Travis Boyd50007000-.---0.000
M. Highmore40005000-.---0.000
Nils Hoglander429101956121325-.---0.452
J. Hawrlyuk1711223112-.---0.118
M. Michaelis800011000-.---0.000
Tyler Graovac30004000-.---0.000
Hog + Others7010112194131427-.---0.300
FW Totals-97---129--2.5542.301
Quinn Hughes423293256439430.7640.762
Nate Schmidt41491355512170.4890.317
Alex Edler39066520880.5450.154
Tyler Myers424121656516210.3820.381
Travis Hamonic24044320550.2170.167
Jordie Benn*31189311890.2040.290
Olli Juolevi1920225303-.---0.105
Jalen Chatfield1301117011-.---0.077
B. Rafferty10111011-.---1.000
G. Brisebois10001000-.---0.000
Rookie D + ??3422444325-.---0.118
D Totals-14---19--0.6070.333
Team Totals-111---148--3.162.642
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Let's be honest, we're missing one of our top 3 players so it's no surprise the offense looks terrible. Our GF/GP has lurched another step lower from 2.73 to 2.64 falling from 20th to 23rd. That said our defense has looked better, mainly due to Holtby not playing terribly, and our GA/GP has changed from 3.4 to 3.1 which is still high but not the early season Senators level of bad it was at. Our PP has slipped half a percentage point from 20% flat to 19.5% which has us tied for 19th in the league. Meanwhile, the PK is running at 78.3% (21st) which is a big drop from the 80.3% it was at after game 30.

All of these stats peg us as a 20th place team in the league which is almost exactly where we're at.

The goaltending has been an adventure this year with Demko's rocky start and Holtby doing his best to play himself out of the league, but it's improved some. Demko has kept pushing his numbers towards the top of the league with a 0.917 sv% which has kept his GAA at 2.74. If we could keep him from facing 33 shots per night he could, almost, carry this team. Holtby who hasn't broken 0.900 in any of these reports is at a 0.904 which pegs him as a solid backup. Still, he's facing 34 shots per night which has his GAA sitting at 3.24 which is 49th among goalies who've started at least 15 games.

This team needs a lot of help on defense and could easily dump its entire bottom-6 for waiver fodder and expect to see improvement. It's going to take work that I'm not sure Benning is capable of to get this team pointed in the right direction.
 

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Game 50 was the game that we found ourselves officially on the outside of the playoffs with no way back in. With a record of 21 - 26 - 3 for a 0.450 points percentage, we find ourselves only above the Senators in our division and 24th in the league by points percentage. Given how tight the standings are at the bottom of the league we could still place anywhere between 20th and 28th place. My hope is that we stay towards the bottom and pull even more vets from the line-up for our meaningless final games.

NameGPGAPp/GPp/Gp/Ap/PPS/PPGP/PPG
Elias Pettersson26101121261011210.9620.808
Brock Boeser50202141562224460.8220.820
J.T. Miller47132639531529440.7780.830
Bo Horvat50171936561921400.7310.720
Tanner Pearson461071752118190.4810.370
Jake Virtanen38505385050.3730.132
Adam Gaudette*32437324370.3720.219
Brandon Sutter43931248103130.3550.279
Antoine Roussel35134391340.3490.114
Tyler Motte246392773100.1890.375
Jay Beagle30145301450.2170.167
Loui Eriksson701180110.3720.142
Zack MacEwen30112341120.3570.067
Justin Bailey300030000.1670.000
Jimmy Vesey1401116011-.---0.071
Travis Boyd1310115101-.---0.077
M. Highmore1202213022-.---0.167
J. Hawrlyuk2423527235-.---0.208
Nils Hoglander5012142656131629-.---0.520
M. Michaelis1000011000-.---0.000
Tyler Graovac82029202-.---0.250
Kole Lind60007000-.---0.000
Hog + Others7414142883151631-.---0.378
FW Totals-118---132--2.5542.360
Quinn Hughes503333656337400.7640.720
Nate Schmidt495101555611170.4890.306
Alex Edler47077530880.5450.149
Tyler Myers505131856615210.3820.360
Travis Hamonic32156361670.2170.188
Jordie Benn*31189311890.2040.290
Olli Juolevi2121324213-.---0.143
Jalen Chatfield1501117011-.---0.067
B. Rafferty10111011-.---1.000
G. Brisebois10001000-.---0.000
Jack Rathbone41124112-.---0.500
Rookie D + ??4234747347-.---0.167
D Totals-18---20--0.6070.360
Team Totals-136---152--3.162.720
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Players in bold are players that are presumed to be done for the season. Players marked with a star and in italics were traded.

The offense is still awful having plummeted from 2.64 GF/GP to 2.36 which is 'good' for 24th in the league. The defense has also given up and dipped to allowing 3.26 GA/GP which is also 24th in the league. Special teams are at 17.4% (25th) and 77.9% (24th) and are as responsible for our lack of success as everything else has been this season.

Demko is still putting up respectable starting-caliber numbers on a team with a very poor defense (0.914 sv% [T15th] - 2.89 GAA [39th] - 33.25 Shots Against per Game). Holtby has slipped back into being a low end backup after a few games where he started looking better (0.899 sv% [T44th] - 3.34 GAA [51st] - 33.06 Shots Against per Game). If Holtby had played as well as Demko we might have just limped into the playoffs but that's a lot to ask of your backup with our quality of defense.

Look forward to our season concluding stats when this mess is finally finished. Until then, try to stay sobber during the games, this team isn't a good reason to hurt your liver.
 
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It is my grim duty to post this season's final tallies and put this season out of its misery.

We finished with a 23 - 19 -4 record which was "good" for 50 points in 56 games. That puts us 24th overall had we been 3 points worse we'd have been alone in 28th, 6 points worse for 29th, 8 for 30th, and 13 for last. We were 11 points away from an untied 16th in the league.

NameGPGAP82/GP82/G82/A82/PP/PPGA/PPG
Elias Pettersson26101121381516310.9620.808
Brock Boeser56232649823438720.8220.875
J.T. Miller53153146782246680.7780.868
Bo Horvat56192039822929580.7310.696
Tanner Pearson5110818751512270.4810.353
Jake Virtanen38505567070.3730.132
Adam Gaudette324374764100.3720.219
Brandon Sutter43931263134170.3550.279
Antoine Roussel35134511450.3490.114
Tyler Motte246393594130.1890.375
Jay Beagle30145441670.2170.167
Loui Eriksson7011100110.3720.142
Zack MacEwen34112501120.3570.067
Justin Bailey300040000.1670.000
Jimmy Vesey20033290440.3540.150
Travis Boyd19202283030.3910.105
M. Highmore18325264370.1370.278
J. Hawrlyuk30235443470.3240.167
Tyler Graovac14314215270.1690.286
Nils Hoglander5613142782192140-.---0.482
M. Michaelis1500022000-.---0.000
Kole Lind700010000-.---0.000
J. Gadjovich10001000-.---0.000
W. Lockwood20003000-.---0.000
Rookies81131431119192140-.---0.382
FW Totals-127---186--2.5542.268
Quinn Hughes563384182456600.7640.732
Nate Schmidt545101579715220.4890.278
Alex Edler5208876012120.5450.154
Tyler Myers556152181922310.3820.382
Travis Hamonic38371056412160.2170.263
Jordie Benn31189451890.2040.290
Olli Juolevi2321334314-.---0.130
Jalen Chatfield1801126011-.---0.056
B. Rafferty10111011-.---1.000
G. Brisebois100010000.0000.000
Jack Rathbone812312235-.---0.375
Rookie D51358755611-.---0.157
D Totals-21---31--0.6070.375
Team Totals-148---217--3.162.643
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[I changed the predicted totals to 82 game season totals for more context. I also added "predictions" for players that joined the team late for even more context.]

You can look at the red and see that way too many players underperformed their 3-year average.

6 of 24 forwards were on pace for less than 20 points over an 82 game season. Hoglander was the only rookie forward to score a point. Once you got past our top 6, and arguably our top 5, you fell into the abyss in terms of generating offense. The worst part, and we all know it, is that the abyss is also a money pit to the tune of $20 million per season.

The defense was slightly better. Hughes was scoring close to last years rate even without Pettersson to finish for him. Rathbone and Juolevi look like at least depth options. Even Myers at least managed to score at a respectable rate. With a proper system, which we're not seeing next season, we could make this core average even with the parts we have.

In terms of team stats the only stat that wasn't in the mid 20's was our PK and given how leaky we were at 5-on-5 that didn't help. We simply couldn't score, couldn't keep shot counts low, and couldn't keep pucks out of the net. 148 goals for. 187 goals against. -39 goal differential. Need I say more.

Demko was better than his stats suggest given the state of this team. He managed a 0.915 sv% (T16th) and a 2.85 GAA (36th) but he did so facing 33.5 shots per 60 minutes which was only behind the 34.8 Bernier faced playing in Detroit. Holtby couldn't match Demko's heroics while facing down 33.1 shots per 60 (4th highest) and ended with an 0.889 sv% (56th) and a GAA of 3.67 (58th) which simply aren't good enough even in the face of that many shots.

In short, we deserved our place in the standings and given that we're giving the same manager and coach another season I have little hope for next season.
 

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Here is a stat. Loui Eriksson made $6 million per point this year

I need to throw up....then have a drink
 

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