Ryan English
@ryanenglish_FC
Hello guys,
Respect everything contributed by this board and figured it was time for me to help keep the ball rolling.
I did a study on draft sucess, and I took a timeframe of the five most recent years to do so, 2004-2008.
I think this is a relevant timeframe, because players drafted in 2004 and beyond are just becoming UFA eligible, so teams who did well should be very competitive considering they have control of their draft picks right up to this summer.
I used the methodology of total games played by draft picks from each team. I'm aware this way is not perfect because the games played are not exclusively for the team that drafted them. Though there are exceptions, generally if teams lose the rights to a player its through a trade where they get value back.
One of the most relevant returns I got was Games played per pick.
Here are the rankings:
94.7 Montreal
81.1 Pittsburgh
80.2 Boston
78.4 Phoenix
72.5 New York Rangers
67.5 Washington
66.8 Columbus
66.6 San Jose
65.9 Toronto
63.7 Ottawa
61.3 Buffalo
60.5 Dallas
60.4 Edmonton
59.1 St. Louis
58.9 Vancouver
58.6 Colorado
56.9 Carolina
56.5 New York Islanders
55.9 Nashville
54.7 Chicago
53.8 Los Angeles
52.4 Detroit
45.4 Anaheim
44.9 New Jersey
43.4 Florida
40.0 Philidelphia
37.5 Minnesota
33.7 Calgary
30.6 Atlanta
28.1 Tampa Bay
Montreal obviously tops things off, in extra impressive fashion as they were 21st in average number of picks and 14th in average number of picks. Boston also impresses with less than stellar opportunities and great results. Pittsburgh is buoyed by Malkin/Crosby/Staal so their ranking should not come as a surprise. Tampa is especially terrible as they hit 370 games with Stamkos and are still in last.
For some added context, here are the average start and average number of picks:
(If anyone knows how to format tables to tidy this up, feel free to do so or let me know)
For the average start, if a team started outside of the 1st round i made #30 their start because the numbers came out very goofy for teams like Philly at first.
Ideally there would be a point system I could attach to the GP/Pick metric to more realistically express value but I haven't come across one.
If you would like to look at the players behind your teams ranking, this site helped a lot: http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/
Criticism is welcomed.
Respect everything contributed by this board and figured it was time for me to help keep the ball rolling.
I did a study on draft sucess, and I took a timeframe of the five most recent years to do so, 2004-2008.
I think this is a relevant timeframe, because players drafted in 2004 and beyond are just becoming UFA eligible, so teams who did well should be very competitive considering they have control of their draft picks right up to this summer.
I used the methodology of total games played by draft picks from each team. I'm aware this way is not perfect because the games played are not exclusively for the team that drafted them. Though there are exceptions, generally if teams lose the rights to a player its through a trade where they get value back.
One of the most relevant returns I got was Games played per pick.
Here are the rankings:
94.7 Montreal
81.1 Pittsburgh
80.2 Boston
78.4 Phoenix
72.5 New York Rangers
67.5 Washington
66.8 Columbus
66.6 San Jose
65.9 Toronto
63.7 Ottawa
61.3 Buffalo
60.5 Dallas
60.4 Edmonton
59.1 St. Louis
58.9 Vancouver
58.6 Colorado
56.9 Carolina
56.5 New York Islanders
55.9 Nashville
54.7 Chicago
53.8 Los Angeles
52.4 Detroit
45.4 Anaheim
44.9 New Jersey
43.4 Florida
40.0 Philidelphia
37.5 Minnesota
33.7 Calgary
30.6 Atlanta
28.1 Tampa Bay
Montreal obviously tops things off, in extra impressive fashion as they were 21st in average number of picks and 14th in average number of picks. Boston also impresses with less than stellar opportunities and great results. Pittsburgh is buoyed by Malkin/Crosby/Staal so their ranking should not come as a surprise. Tampa is especially terrible as they hit 370 games with Stamkos and are still in last.
For some added context, here are the average start and average number of picks:
(If anyone knows how to format tables to tidy this up, feel free to do so or let me know)
Code:
Avg St Avg #
13.2 7.4 ANA
14.2 7.2 ATL
16.2 6.6 BOS
18.4 7.8 BUF
25 7.6 CGY
12.4 6.6 CAR
5 10.4 CHI
22.6 8 COL
6.6 9.2 CBJ
28.6 7 DAL
27.2 7 DET
19.4 6.8 EDM
15.6 6.8 FLO
7.8 9 LA
12.8 7 MIN
17 7.2 MTL
18.6 7.8 NSH
25.4 7.4 NJD
15.4 9.6 NYI
15.2 8.4 NYR
20.8 7.4 OTT
20.4 7.8 PHI
8.2 7.6 PHX
11 7.2 PIT
17 7.8 SJS
11.8 8.8 STL
21.2 7.6 TB
19.8 6.8 TOR
17 5.8 VAN
9 9.6 WSH
For the average start, if a team started outside of the 1st round i made #30 their start because the numbers came out very goofy for teams like Philly at first.
Ideally there would be a point system I could attach to the GP/Pick metric to more realistically express value but I haven't come across one.
If you would like to look at the players behind your teams ranking, this site helped a lot: http://www.hockeydb.com/ihdb/draft/teams/
Criticism is welcomed.
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