Proposal: TB (Miller)and Van

[Boondock]

Canucks fan, interested by the Tampa cap situation going into next year wondering what it would take to get J.T. Miller. Trade to take place at the draft.

To TB: Van 2nd round Pick (probably a top 2-3 pick in the round)
To Van: J.T. Miller

Canucks are not overly deep at LW, especially our prospect pool. I think Miller would look good playing along side Horvat.

Helps with the Lightning cap and frees up some space to re-sign Point.

Canucks top 6 next year (potentially)
Dahlen/Pettersson/Boeser
Miller/Horvat/Baertchi (Virtanen)

Close? Something TB fans would consider?

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[Howie Hodge]

Depends on what is available for Tampa in that draft at that position. It makes some sense perhaps.

I should think Miller may be worth a little more to someone.

But it is a reasonable proposal.

 

[Dirk316]

There would be other teams interested that could offer a mid to late 1st and a prospect

 

[The Macho King]

Depends on a) what the cap is looking like, and b) what type of contract Point is looking for, as well as c) is no one offering a higher pick? If we're up against the cap and need to do it, we'll do it. But there are a lot of moving parts here.

 

[Boondock]

Depends on what is available for Tampa in that draft at that position. It makes some sense perhaps.

I should think Miller may be worth a little more to someone.

But it is a reasonable proposal.

thought that might be the case. I would be willing to add a risk/reward type prospect to the pick, but if someone wants to pony up any more than that, I would respectfully withdraw. I like Miller and think hes a good fit in terms of age and style but not willing to over-bid for his services.

 

[780il]

If Oil make the playoffs I'd be prepared to offer Pulju + 1st + 3rd for Miller + prospect.

 

[Boondock]

There would be other teams interested that could offer a mid to late 1st and a prospect

Is Miller a 1st round pick type player? If you use the Hartman trade as a template maybe, but Hartman is on the cheap and I think a lot of people thought that was an overpay.

 

[Boondock]

If Oil make the playoffs I'd be prepared to offer Pulju + 1st + 3rd for Miller + prospect.

Depending on the TB prospect I guess but wow that's a return for a player who would be top of the list to move in order to find cap space for TB.

 

[Rschmitz]

If Oil make the playoffs I'd be prepared to offer Pulju + 1st + 3rd for Miller + prospect.

As exciting as it would be to try and fix a prospect like Pulju, not sure if we have the room on the roster and we'd lose him to waivers.

 

[ccman68]

No need to trade Miller. We will just get rid of Callahan

 

[DingDongCharlie]

If Oil make the playoffs I'd be prepared to offer Pulju + 1st + 3rd for Miller + prospect.

I hope Chiarelli disagrees. That’s a horrible overpayment. Never mind the cap issue in such a deal

 

[Icebreakers]

If Oil make the playoffs I'd be prepared to offer Pulju + 1st + 3rd for Miller + prospect.

Are you sure about that? Jt Miller is one of the worst playoff performers in recent history. He has 3 goals in 57 games.

 

[bleedblue1223]

Teams would definitely pay more than that for Miller. Blues definitely would assuming they move other pieces out to clear cap.

If Schenn doesn't want an extension, Miller would be a logical replacement.

 

[Boondock]

No need to trade Miller. We will just get rid of Callahan

Not trying to start an argument, but I've looked at the TB cap and maybe that's the case, but I think that might be an overly optimistic cap solution.

 

[THE Green Man]

Not trying to start an argument, but I've looked at the TB cap and maybe that's the case, but I think that might be an overly optimistic cap solution.

They'll have to pay to move him but according to capfriendly his NTC is him submitting a 16 team list of approved spots, that's still relatively decent market size to trade to. Hell provided the Canucks don't get hit with a Luongo recapture this year he'd be a decent replacement for a guy like Granlund. Someone who can actually kill penalties and play on the 4th line.

 

[AndreRoy]

If Oil make the playoffs I'd be prepared to offer Pulju + 1st + 3rd for Miller + prospect.

We’ll most likely be looking to move Miller in the offseason as we’re looking to make a run in the playoffs ourselves. In addition PoolParty is looking rather bust-ish and we’d really prefer a defensive prospect anyway, so if the prospect you want from us is a good one I’d be inclined to turn that down. Take Pulju and our prospect out and do the deal in the offseason and I’d do it assuming we didn’t get a better offer from another team.

 

[Slyfox]

He will easily get a 1st and a good prospect.

 

[AndreRoy]

They'll have to pay to move him but according to capfriendly his NTC is him submitting a 16 team list of approved spots, that's still relatively decent market size to trade to. Hell provided the Canucks don't get hit with a Luongo recapture this year he'd be a decent replacement for a guy like Granlund. Someone who can actually kill penalties and play on the 4th line.

Rather than pay to move Callahan’s entire contract I think we’ll trade Miller and then if necessary retain to make Callahan movable without incentive. Miller’s going to have to go sooner or later anyway and I’d rather trade him for futures now and retain on Cally or let him run out his deal than give up a high pick or a good prospect to move Cally’s entire salary just so we can keep Miller around for an extra year. Or alternatively maybe we trade Miller AND pay to move Callahan’s entire salary so we can afford to sign a veteran defenseman to a one year deal to ease our young guys in rather than rely on two inexperienced players on our bottom pairing. In any event though I don’t see us keeping Miller at the expense of having to pay dearly to move Callahan’s entire salary when we’ll just have to turn around and trade J.T. a year later anyway.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

I would be shocked if we even get a whiff of a first for Miller. Not because he isn't worth it or anything, mostly because 27 GM's in the league know our situation and will play towards it. The three that won't...Benning, Chiarelli, and Dorion.

 

[Leonardo87]

Rather than pay to move Callahan’s entire contract I think we’ll trade Miller and then if necessary retain to make Callahan movable without incentive. Miller’s going to have to go sooner or later anyway and I’d rather trade him for futures now and retain on Cally or let him run out his deal than give up a high pick or a good prospect to move Cally’s entire salary just so we can keep Miller around for an extra year. Or alternatively maybe we trade Miller AND pay to move Callahan’s entire salary so we can afford to sign a veteran defenseman to a one year deal to ease our young guys in rather than rely on two inexperienced players on our bottom pairing. In any event though I don’t see us keeping Miller at the expense of having to pay dearly to move Callahan’s entire salary when we’ll just have to turn around and trade J.T. a year later anyway.

I really hope Tampa can find a way to keep Callahan next season. After reading that NY post Interview, he really wants to stay in Tampa and loves it down there . As does his family. I think he’s going to be the hungriest for a cup since he doesn’t have too many seasons left to play and has no cup. Looked that way in the ECF.

 

[Canuck86]

Goldobin? Another Russian to go to TB, he is cheap and a rfa at end of year.

Could also add in Tanev or Edler if its a deadline deal depending on what the return would be from Tampa.

 

[DistantThunderRep]

Goldobin? Another Russian to go to TB, he is cheap and a rfa at end of year.

Could also add in Tanev or Edler if its a deadline deal depending on what the return would be from Tampa.

The point would be to not take back any cap.

 

[Rowlet]

Miller would be nice, but I'd rather use the pick, it will probably be quite high and our current scouting staff has been decent lately in the late first/early second

 

[135ace]

I think it would take a bit more to get him if Van wanted him, but something like their 2nd+3rd should get it done.

 

[AndreRoy]

Goldobin? Another Russian to go to TB, he is cheap and a rfa at end of year.

Could also add in Tanev or Edler if its a deadline deal depending on what the return would be from Tampa.

Zero interest in either. Tanev’s made of glass and it makes no sense for us to pay a 1D rental price to have either Edler or McDonagh playing on our bottom pairing.