Tavares Worst Captain Ever

[Grifter3511]

uh ....yea, sure

Dude...I hate TO and I don't like JT. Can't believe you couldn't detect the sarcasm in my posts.

 

[PaulD]

Dude...I hate TO and I don't like JT. Can't believe you couldn't detect the sarcasm in my posts.

my bad.
re read that one .....and yea , how the f#%@ did I not detect that is right !

cheers

 

[PaulD]

Taveres is so bad that Habs fans whined when he didn't talk to their team during free agency.

pajama boy had one place in mind
good thing for Habs and others teams , nobody wants that contract. ouch !

I seem to remember JT getting a knee to the head in the playoffs against Montreal and trying to get up that's not gutsy enough for some of you jokers?

That was a brutal collision. Probably cost T.O the series.

 

[Henry Miller]

Captains are basically mascots and PR type players. You don’t need a letter on the jersey to be a leader in the locker room. Without being on the team it’s impossible to know who the leaders are, and they can be anyone from the best players on the team to a bottom 6 player

 

[Moose Head]

Pacioretty says hold my glass of light beer with ice cubes in it.

 

[RebuildinVan]

Were you a Canucks fan during the Messier years?

 

[MCR74]

Say what you will. At least Tavares didn't shit-can Keefe to hire the coach he had in junior.

 

[HockeyVirus]

The dirty little secret for Leafs is that you could just as easily insert Matthews’ name for Tavares’ name in the sentence above, and it would have the same accuracy.

This might be the worst take in HFboards history. I am in awe.

 

[BostonBob]

This might be the worst take in HFboards history. I am in awe.

Come on now - you've posted much worse.

 

[Hockeyville USA]

He doesn't have the bite/edge that you need, nor does he show enough motivational emotion to drag his team into the fight.

Couture, as the later contention window Sharks became his team, dragged his team in the fight and galvanized the group.

Stamkos, for all his playoff underachieving, has really done a better job leading in the playoffs in his later years, even when it's clear he's not the producer he needs to be.

Tavares is bland as hell out there. Had the Game 6 OT series winner against Tampa and then back to doing little against Florida.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

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Ahh Steve McKenna, quite possibly not only the worst player to serve as a captain for any team, the worst skater, worst fighter and tied with Shane Endicott for worst everything I ever saw a single individual do on a hockey rink.

 

[These Are The Days]

This might be the worst take in HFboards history. I am in awe.

I did worse in the Mackinnon thread

 

[PB37]

I'm sure he's a good corporate captain. Meaning he's a top player who's good with fans, shows up to team events, puts up good stats, has a backstory of being a Leafs fan growing up, etc etc. They can slap his face on magazines, have him do interviews, hold nights dedicated to him as a player. But as a leader of men, I've never seen it from him. He's still a dangerous player on the ice with the puck on his stick but I would not want him as a captain on my team.

 

[Midnight Judges]

Can we just stipulate that whichever teams are better at hockey will be assumed to have better better leadership from the player that scores the most points - even if that player is a complete douche?

 

[BKIslandersFan]

 

[DFC]

It's insane that this is the problem some Leaf fans/Leaf critics are focused on. Whether or not Tavares is a good captain doesn't even matter.

 

[Rabid Ranger]

HF always says the "C" doesn't matter....until it does. Is Tavares a "leader of men"? I have no idea. He seems a pretty straight-laced guy who is a solid citizen on and off the ice. He's also a Torontuh boy. Perfect for the Leafs and their front office/image. What I do know is giving the "C" to someone else on this team wouldn't move the goalposts much. These guys are all pretty much cut from the same cloth. They need Doug Gilmour or Gary Roberts to rejoin the fold.

 

[Voight]

None of us play in the NHL so it's really hard to say who's a good captain or not. Nobody here is with the players day to day or in the dressing room. While I think the captaincy is important, one guy no matter how good he is isn't going to magically lead the team to the promised land because he was a C stitched on his jersey.

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

Yeah, but pyjamas.

 

[HanSolo]

None of us play in the NHL so it's really hard to say who's a good captain or not. Nobody here is with the players day to day or in the dressing room. While I think the captaincy is important, one guy no matter how good he is isn't going to magically lead the team to the promised land because he was a C stitched on his jersey.

I think this is only half accurate. Fans can see active leadership on the ice from players consistently running pre draw huddles, always talking on the bench, taking the time and effort to talk with young and/or struggling players. Less verbose players can lead by example. Like on a night where the rest of the team seems off or disinterested you might see your "leading by example" player putting in extra effort on the ice to try to galvanize the team.

But yeah as for locker room leadership no average fan can know who has it and who doesn't.

 

[Breakers]

Morgan Rielly was the obvious choice

 

[PoutineSp00nZ]

How do you quantify how good of a captain someone is without being on the team?

You can't. We have no idea if he's a good captain or not.

Does he choke in the playoffs? Absolutely. He isn't the only one on that team. But for all we know he's a fantastic captain.

 

[Bouboumaster]

He's no Nick Suzuki that's for sure

But Tavares being the Captain ain't in the top 10 reasons why the Leafs sucks

 

[thegazelle]

I think, to a degree, there is maybe an unspoken perception or even expectation that the captain not only has good leadership abilities but in general is the best player on the team, offensively. We all know that's not the case, but there's more than a few NHL teams whose captain is that type of player.
I would have no idea what happens in the dressing room and whether Tavares has the confidence of his teammates. From an ambassadorial perspective, he certainly fits the bill in terms of projecting a sense of maturity, being even keeled, and keeping his nose clean on and off the ice. From the sponsors' perspective, he is a great spokesman. But a great spokesman does not make a captain.

I know previously being captain of the Islanders may mean diddly squat, but maybe that was just the path of least resistance for the Leafs. Find someone who had that role before and have them take it on, whether on an interim basis (even for a few years) or permanently. Tavares certainly had much promise in the OHL and being first overall draft pick, lots of expectations. Has he achieved them offensively? I would say no, insofar as meeting the potential fans and the league had. But has he been a solid journeyman who has been a decent player? I'd say yes. That doesn't make him captain material either, but I don't think he is, by any stretch of the imagination, the worst captain. That, I would ascribe to Dion Phaneuf, who should have never been in any leadership position in the first place.

Certainly, fans have had a good treat in past years with good solid captains like Sundin, Gilmour, Clark, etc. I would even say Ramage was decent. Would I rank Tavares in that bunch? No, but he is not the worst. In my lifetime (so far) the Leafs haven't really had a lot of bad captains, Phaneuf excepted.

 

[Sheppy]

I don't think he's a bad captain but he just looks dumb. He looks like he's trying to do long division at all times and shows the emotion of a boiled egg.