GDT: TankTown Express, Canadian Roadtrip Time

[Linkens Mastery]

Well you have to keep watching now or else we’ll never win again

Someone get ahold of his Girlfriend and make her chain him to the chair during Blues games.

 

[shpongle falls]

Might be the best game I ever saw Kyrou play, including the Winter Classic

Kyrou looks better than he did last year, even though he looked horrific to start to the season.

 

[Bobby Orrtuzzo]

Someone get ahold of his Girlfriend and make her chain him to the chair during Blues games.

Oh…uh, I mean yeah get out of here, winners!

 

[Robb_K]

Kyrou had the most TOI of all Blues forwards almost breaking 24 mins. And was only behind Krug and Faulk in TOI.

McDavid played almost 30 minutes.

Kyrou played really well tonight. +3! Thomas played well, too. Barbashev seems to be a good complement with them. That gives The Blues 3 good scoring lines. Maybe they're on their way to a decent last season before the re-tooling. I don't mind them not tanking. They can't get low enough to get a super player, anyway.

 

[Linkens Mastery]

How do we constantly keep McDavid to 1 point or less?

 

[Davimir Tarablad]

How do we constantly keep McDavid to 1 point or less?

 

[mab894]

lol at the Oilers fans blaming the refs instead of looking inwards. McJesus getting stripped by Kyrou on the tying goal was so awesome. What a great game by him

 

[Mike Liut]

Kyrou played really well tonight. +3! Thomas played well, too. Barbashev seems to be a good complement with them. That gives The Blues 3 good scoring lines. Maybe they're on their way to a decent last season before the re-tooling. I don't mind them not tanking. They can't get low enough to get a super player, anyway.

Unfortunately, there is no re-tooling without trading ROR, Tarasenko and Barbs. I’m having a hard time believe Army will trade them knowing this is our last shot before the closes for a while.

 

[ChicagoIsBedarded]

lol at the Oilers fans blaming the refs instead of looking inwards. McJesus getting stripped by Kyrou on the tying goal was so awesome. What a great game by him

What do they have to complain about?

Literally every single highlight from regulation is Edmonton on a power play.

 

[execwrite1]

You have to admire the championship heart this team still has. Berube has taught them well.

The overall talent level is lacking but there are players on this team that will never quit trying and the veterans are passing that along to the kids.

I totally support a tear down. Without new contracts, you have to trade O'Reilly, Tarasenko and Barbashev. Can't just let them walk for nothing.

But games like this one show there are still Stanley Cup champ bones in this group.

 

[Blueston]

Unfortunately, there is no re-tooling without trading ROR, Tarasenko and Barbs. I’m having a hard time believe Army will trade them knowing this is our last shot before the closes for a while.

But do we really have a shot? Even our wins lately don’t inspire confidence.

 

[Reality Czech]

lol at the Oilers fans blaming the refs instead of looking inwards. McJesus getting stripped by Kyrou on the tying goal was so awesome. What a great game by him

Yep, he was great last night. Binnington also made some huge saves to keep us in the game. He looked very solid as well. Easily the best two players for the Blues in that game.

 

[GoldenSeal]

Magic through the mind-altering scent of rotten fish!

*rows away. In the distance one could hear ‘When The Blues Go Marching In’ in the distance.*

 

[Brian39]

I love watching a goalie battle to keep his team in a game and then get rewarded with 2 points. That 3 save sequence Binner made in the 3rd was enormous. Pure battle and desperation that did just enough to keep out a puck that absolutely should have gone in.

Marek and Friedman have talked a lot this year about what a #1 goalie looks like in the modern NHL. They have spent a ton of airtime selling the idea that you can no longer ask your goalie to steal you full games, but that you can just ask him to steal 1-2 periods and then make 1 more save than the other guy. We got that last night and he outdueled Saros in a 1-0 OT win on Monday. He put the team on his back this week and got us 5 of 6 possible points (including playing both games of a home B2B).

Binner's lows can be very low and I'm not sold that he can give us enough good nights over a 60+ game workload to get this team to the playoffs. But that top gear he has is something else. I completely understand why the organization has a difficult time punting the season when you have a goalie with that kind of A game. He's a guy that can turn a series that the team has no business winning.

 

[Mike Liut]

But do we really have a shot? Even our wins lately don’t inspire confidence.

Maybe a shot and sneaking into the last WC, which maybe cause him to hold. I don’t agree with it, but I can understand that mentality

 

[PocketNines]

McDavid literally does not touch the puck in the offensive zone until after both Parayko and Draisaitl have touched it, and they are screaming that McDavid must be deemed in control of the puck during this time.

Anyone can watch the replay. He does not touch the puck in the offensive zone until after it is passed to him by Draisaitl, who got the puck after Parayko batted it. To believe that this entire process in the zone was McDavid being in control of the puck is embarrassing homerism. Really weak sauce Oiler fans, truly weak.

I get that it's McDavid, and thus nobody is allowed to make a pro's defensive play on him tying up his stick so that he loses control. Only McDavid can be intending to make hockey plays, ROR merely accidentally tied him up.

 

[Oilers in NS]

Oilers fans are big mad lol

Not really. We are mad at Nurse but we have come to the reality he sucks. Sucks pretty good because he gets 9.25 a year

 

[Brian39]

McDavid literally does not touch the puck in the offensive zone until after both Parayko and Draisaitl have touched it, and they are screaming that McDavid must be deemed in control of the puck during this time.

Anyone can watch the replay. He does not touch the puck in the offensive zone until after it is passed to him by Draisaitl, who got the puck after Parayko batted it. To believe that this entire process in the zone was McDavid being in control of the puck is embarrassing homerism. Really weak sauce Oiler fans, truly weak.

I get that it's McDavid, and thus nobody is allowed to make a pro's defensive play on him tying up his stick so that he loses control. Only McDavid can be intending to make hockey plays, ROR merely accidentally tied him up.

I don't think you have to go so far as saying he was in control the entire process in the zone in order to argue that he was onside. You can argue that he had control until the moment ROR stick checked his stick and prevented him from touching the puck. That would mean that he was in control at the moment the puck crossed the blueline and was thus onside.

I think the NHL correctly determined that it was a contested puck at the time he crossed the line and ROR's stick check to prevent McDavid from touching it just inside the blueline demonstrated that. But I get the argument the other way and it doesn't require someone to say that he then continued to maintain control as the puck skittered 15 feet in front of him.

 

[Punished ROR]

I get the Oiler annoyance/confusion over this one (and the Makar goal). I don't like either. Obviously I'm happy we won. But I'd hate that call if it were going against us.

I think most hockey fans had a "spirit of the rule" view of offside up until Makar's goal -- i.e. Makar clearly had possession and control of the puck, even if the puck wasn't making physical contact with his blade. We've since learned the NHL has some kind of weird black/white interpretation of offside where the most important thing is the precise moment the puck carrier makes physical contact with the puck. In a game as fast as hockey, this makes it that much harder to make the right call in real time, necessitating these horrendous reviews.

The thing that really chaps my ass is that no one cared about a play being a hair's width offside prior to these reviews -- because we operated under the aforementioned spirit of the rule. We allowed for some element of human error in the game. That's gone, possibly forever, and now all the other human errors in the game that aren't reviewable look that much worse. Review everything!!!!!!!!!

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Magic through the mind-altering scent of rotten fish!

*rows away. In the distance one could hear ‘When The Blues Go Marching In’ in the distance.*

Hey now! You didn't say the tuna was rotten!

I want a refund!!

 

[ChicagoBlues]

Not really. We are mad at Nurse but we have come to the reality he sucks. Sucks pretty good because he gets 9.25 a year

Naughty Nurse

 

[GoldenSeal]

Naughty Nurse

It’s the Nurse Curse!

 

[PocketNines]

I don't think you have to go so far as saying he was in control the entire process in the zone in order to argue that he was onside. You can argue that he had control until the moment ROR stick checked his stick and prevented him from touching the puck. That would mean that he was in control at the moment the puck crossed the blueline and was thus onside.

I think the NHL correctly determined that it was a contested puck at the time he crossed the line and ROR's stick check to prevent McDavid from touching it just inside the blueline demonstrated that. But I get the argument the other way and it doesn't require someone to say that he then continued to maintain control as the puck skittered 15 feet in front of him.

I see what you are saying, but the way I see the rule is that the "player remains in control" is the exception to the statutory rule of physical offsides. We were only in the "does this meet the exception" debate once he was conclusively determined physically offside. So if I'm trying to let the exception kick in and allow the goal to be valid I need to see the player touch the puck again.

In other words, we have to see affirmative visual evidence that the exception is met once we've seen definitively the statutory part was broken, and we never get that. In fact we get the opposite.

Edit: an Oiler fan helpfully provided the key demand for a further data point in the rule. The player is deemed in control of the puck and meets the exception to the physical offsides rule "provided the player in control of the puck continues propelling the puck." He quite plainly fails this textual rule requirement.

 

[Blueston]

Maybe a shot and sneaking into the last WC, which maybe cause him to hold. I don’t agree with it, but I can understand that mentality

we absolutely can make playoffs, but do we realistically have a chance to win Cup? that should be question.

 

[Moose and Squirrel]

I get the Oiler annoyance/confusion over this one (and the Makar goal). I don't like either. Obviously I'm happy we won. But I'd hate that call if it were going against us.

I think most hockey fans had a "spirit of the rule" view of offside up until Makar's goal -- i.e. Makar clearly had possession and control of the puck, even if the puck wasn't making physical contact with his blade. We've since learned the NHL has some kind of weird black/white interpretation of offside where the most important thing is the precise moment the puck carrier makes physical contact with the puck. In a game as fast as hockey, this makes it that much harder to make the right call in real time, necessitating these horrendous reviews.

The thing that really chaps my ass is that no one cared about a play being a hair's width offside prior to these reviews -- because we operated under the aforementioned spirit of the rule. We allowed for some element of human error in the game. That's gone, possibly forever, and now all the other human errors in the game that aren't reviewable look that much worse. Review everything!!!!!!!!!

that's the rub.. to proceed the puck into the zone it has to be on your stick

the McDavid play was def offsides, cause he didn't get his stick back on it till after he was already in the zone, and the puck was already in the zone. that's offsides... no interpretation about it

we absolutely can make playoffs, but do we realistically have a chance to win Cup? that should be question.

regardless of how hot the team was, what were the odds in 18/19 to win the cup? I honestly don't know, but I'd like to lol