Player Discussion Sven Baertschi | Pt. III

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  1. Johnny Canucker

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    No. Raymond , Ballard and a second.
     
  2. tantalum

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    Yes he needs to be shut down and strongly consider retirement.

    But I do think he was hit in the Avs game, it wasn’t a head contact hit but it was a sudden stop and that may have been all it took. And like most pro athletes even if he felt poorly during the game (likely) he wasn’t going to pull himself. And of course with no head contact the spotter wouldn’t have pulled him off the ice.
     
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    They should absolutely shut him down for the season and re-evaluate him in training camp at this point.
     
  4. F A N

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    Maybe his concussion history has something to do with this?
     
  5. timw33

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    Yes....this is why we should have considered signing him to an even shorter deal.
     
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    That deal was pure idiocy.

    He was awful last year after a good first 20 games and was a healthy scratch shortly before injury ended his season. Should absolutely never have received money or term where his career was at. No leverage at all.

    However, that deal might end up being some sort of weird blessing if Baertschi’s career is over and it allows him to be set for life while we can LTIR it.
     
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    Baertschi was one year away from UFA and arbitration eligible. If you don't think he had any leverage, you don't understand what leverage means.

    This is really disgusting, calling it a blessing if Baertschi's career is over.
     
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    Ronning On Empty Formerly BleachClean

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    I've been trying to dig into Baertschi's concussion history pre-Canucks.

    Does anyone have a link to this information handy? Would appreciate it.
     
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    This is really disgusting, calling it a blessing if Baertschi's career is over.[/QUOTE]

    not sure you understand him... its a blessing for Baer, if in fact his career is now over, because he's going to get a bunch of money that he wouldn't have, had he signed a shorter deal.
     
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    Yeah, unfortunately Beartschi's career looks to be over. The poor kid was game but concussions derail another promising career.

    I still think it was a good trade (though I wouldn't have made it, personally speaking).

    He was on his way to a decent career as a top 6 winger capable of 50-60 points. Really a shame considering his talent and willingness to contribute at both ends of the ice. He did work hard to become an NHL regular.
     
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    not sure you understand him... its a blessing for Baer, if in fact his career is now over, because he's going to get a bunch of money that he wouldn't have, had he signed a shorter deal.[/QUOTE]

    Yeah more like a silver lining thing on a bad situation. Obviously he must be devastated.
     
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    Speaking of neck injuries.

    I've been dealing with a worsening neck injury for the last 10 years (and been unable to work) and one could probably call the symptoms that I've been having to deal with, concussion like.

    It's time to retire Bae.

    You did your part and now it's onto the next chapter of your life (which will be equally if not better than the present chapter).

    [​IMG]
     
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    You should probably read that again.
     
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    Good luck taking a career high of 35 points and being a healthy scratch during the 17-18 season to arbitration.

    You only have leverage if you’ve actually performed at some point. His agents would have wanted nothing to do with arbitration.

    I’m very obviously saying that if his career is over, it’s a blessing for him to be getting that much money and having it be no skin off the club’s back relative to having his career be over and not be getting that money if he’d been given a more fair contract. I’m absolutely not saying it’s good he was hurt.

    But yeah, go on being outraged.
     
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    That is not what he is saying, and you know that.
     
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    Well this is embarrasing.:thumbd:
     
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    Really a shame.

    Baertschi might come off as a bit soft and weak but the kid was a good 200ft player completely fine going to the hard areas, paying a price to make a play and sublimely smart and skilled. Had good chemistry with Horvat too which is a big loss.

    Remember watching him in Abbotsford and it was almost like watching Pettersson relative to his peers. Shame what injuries can do to a career....was pretty convinced he could be a 50-60 pt player for us, just couldnt get on track.....looks like that ship has sailed.
     
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    Hopefully he gets claim because he is an nhl player who can score 10s goals
     
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    Essentially got waived because he was beat out of a job by Pearson and Ferland...and he wasn't going to take Roussels spot on the 3rd line.

    If he can stay healthy he's a good player..We will probably see him back up with the Canucks eventually.. if he doesn't get claimed (which i don't think he will with that contract).
     
  21. rypper

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    Even if he was just the 13th forward I'd rather it be him, someone with skill, over a plug like Schaller or Eriksson.
     
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    I thought Roussel's injury was long term. Why not wait till Roussel is back before making that call?

    The Canucks have one of the lowest scoring bottom 6 in the league last year IIRC. Why make the team only a two line threat? The last time the Canucks made the playoffs they were a three/four line threat.

    They had 12 10+ goal scorers in 2014-15. 16 players with 20 or more points. Last year they had 11 players with 20 or more points. So the last time they had success is with production through the lineup. Why willingly decrease that by reducing the skill of the lineup.

    To be successful the Canucks simply need more production.
     
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    arrivederci Sven Baertschi.

    I’ve been waiting to use that for a few years.

    Back to lurking I go.
     
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    Pipe down peanut gallery...

    [​IMG]
     
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    Let’s call this what it is. The canucks are being wishful and hoping he gets claimed. He most certainly didn’t get beat out by guys like Leivo and Pearson. They’re trying to dump the contract.
     
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