Suter and Hamhuis

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  1. gabby19

    gabby19 Registered User

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    Quick question from a first time newbie, but long time reader of this great site...(had to get that out of the way.)

    I'd love to know what the thoughts are out there on how Suter's signing by Nashville affects Dan Hamhuis' future. With Zidlicky and Timmonen (sp?) already there, is Hamhuis still in the long term plans as PP QB? Is this something that Suter is being groomed for, or is he cut more from the "stay at home" cloth? Is last year's production going to put too much pressure on Hamhuis to produce points this year? (Considering 5 points came in one game.)

    Who is likely to be the bigger point producer for Nashville down the road???

    Thanks, hope I did this right!
     
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    I don't think it matters who will be the biggest point producer. Hamhuis is not solely a powerplay specialist. He'll still be extremely valuable even if he doesn't put up huge numbers.
     
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    I think in time Nashville top 4 defensemen will be Suter-Hamhuis-Weber-Klien.

    Hamhuis and Suter will eventually replace Timonen and Zidlicky but it won't for atleast 3 to 4 more years.

    If Suter is as good as Hamhuis or better, we're going to have one heck of a blueline in the near future.
     
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    They are both great 2 way players.
     
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    With the last season, Hamuis already shown to the management that he have his place in the NHL and trust me, he will stay with the team and will be able to rack-up the points for sure...
     
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    I agree. In a few years Nashville's D is going to damn solid. Hamhuis, Suter, Zdilicky, Weber, Klein. Wow.
     
  7. Sammy*

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    Weber & Klein are far from sure things to play in the NHL. never mind being really good. The potential is there though.
     
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    Suter and Hamhuis. That sounds like one of the Milwaukee Admirals top pairings next year (assuming a lockout).

    I don't think either are offensive defenseman as much as just all-around guys. Both can put up points (or atleast should) and both should be very good in their own end. They might be good compliments to each other. Nashville's future PP QB might not come from either of these two, it might be Niskala (after Zids and Kimmo move on).
     
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    Hamhuis and Suter are going to be very valuable to Nashville in the future. Neither guys are solely offensive, but more so two way dmen, but that doesnt matter, both will likely being consistently hitting the 35-40pt range, but when you have 2 defenseman that do that you dont need a solely offensive defenseman.
     
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    both are better shots to make the NHL than some of the supposed "superstars" i see hyped around here on a pretty regular basis.
     
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    Agreed, both these defenseman have a good chance at producing in the NHL and more so playing good minutes on a regular basis.
     
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    my input..

    during the playoffs i went to gm1 vs nashville and detroit, and i dont care what people say, hamhuis i sware to me looked like a young chelios in the way he played... just my opinion, i think the kid is going to be a physical, hitting, offensive defensemen...

    IMHO he could be (in this day age NHL) 40+ pt, 100 pim, 75 games+ a season type of defensemen... a beast and a HUGE asset... the type of dman that makes teams champions IMHO
     
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    Klein's one of the safest prospects in the league right now, IMO.
     
  14. Sammy*

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    Maybe, but it your view wouldnt have anything to do with them being Nashville property, now would it?
    Besides which, they are hardly blue chip prospects.
     
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    Yeah, he's built solidly and once we get some muscle on him, he's going to improve dramatically. One of his biggest faults is his inability to handle NHL forwards. But he's 20-21. When he gets older, wiser, and stronger, he's going to be a force. He won't ever manhandle the Bertuzzi's of the world, but smart defenseman don't have to.
     
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    no, it wouldn't. Konstantin Glazachev was an equally highly regarded prospect picked in the same second round, and I have almost no faith that he'll ever play in the NHL. I never liked the Brian Finley pick. I have seen Weber and Klein with my own eyes, and also read accounts from those that saw them even more..and both are considered almost surefire NHLers. Weber was selected as the best defenseman in the Memorial Cup, and Klein was routinely regarded as one of the better defenders in the OHL, last year. Both were at prospect camp, and Klein especially looked extremely mature\incredible with the puck.

    Call me crazy, but I'd take either of these two over someone like say, Boris Valabik.
     
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    weber will be an nhl defenceman
     
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    yah I think Klein can play one day in the NHL...but I mean Boris Valabik...The guy is huge......His upside is so much greater...Klein to me looks like Andrew Ference or a player of that ilk...Smooth, smart, trasitionally smart....not overly physical, but smart....good hockey sense....not overly huge or punishing...but stays in position...but I mean these guys they are really a dime a dozen....you find these guys everywhere...and yah Klein is one of these guys and Klein will play...but I mean come on....Hamhuis, Suter, Phaneuf, Coburn, Seabrook, Mike Green from this last year and countless other guys like Valabik have a more dominating, top grade defenseman potential....Klein is maybe slightly, somehow, a bit more of a sure thing...I've no doubt....but ....but Those other guys have Number 1 or 2 Dman potential....and for Klein to become that would be a miracle...

    So to put it....I would put it like this...The Future you have with Hamhuis and Suter is much like the Flames have with Regehr and Leopold......I'd rather have Regehr and Leopold, but it's most certainly compariable.....However the Flames also have Phaneuf and when you have Phaneuf as your 3rd guy on that list in comparison with Klein, or Weber....>I mean yah Phaneuf destroys....

    So basically be excited about Hamhuis and Suter....Top, Top end guys..but I mean whether or not Klein pans out, which he likely will.....he is not nearily the asset that some make him out to be...

    ...and it's funny because I really like Klein...He can be a PP, guy.....a safe, smart, steady D man.....He really can...he likely will be....
     
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    Boris Valabik=Andy Sutton\Hal Gill

    Big ape. No hockey sense.
     
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