Value of: (Stl-TB) Shattenkirk

[Rschmitz]

I think these two teams make great trade partners, and a win-win trade can be made.

Best pieces available:
Tyler Johnson
Alex Killorn
Valterri Filppula
J Drouin
Jason Garrison
Slater Koekkoek
Vladamir Namestnikov
Futures


A trade centered around Tyler Johnson and Jason Garrison for Shattenkirk I think would be great for both sides, with other pieces moving to smooth out the value. Lightning can retain 50% on Johnson to make #'s work.

Lightning get a right handed PMD who is a perfect fit on the PP. Blues swap the extra top 4 RHD for a top 4 LHD on a good contract, and get a great center under team control.

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[Flat Ronnie]

No to trading Drouin.

Other than that, I agree with the rest.

 

[Dbrownss]

I don't see Tampa moving TJ wirh stammer out. Its a deal i would like though

 

[bleedblue1223]

I could see a deal around Shattenkirk and Johnson working out. I'll let Tampa fans determine what they think would be fair.

 

[VasilyKucherov]

:
Tyler Johnson (3.33M - RFA)
Jason Garrison (4.60M)
+ ?

:
Kevin Shattenkirk (4.25M - UFA)
Patrik Berglund (3.70M - UFA)
Ivan Barbashev (Prospect)

7.93M for 7.95M

Would something like this work?

 

[bleedblue1223]

:
Tyler Johnson (3.33M - RFA)
Jason Garrison (4.60M)
+ ?

:
Kevin Shattenkirk (4.25M - UFA)
Patrik Berglund (3.70M - UFA)
Ivan Barbashev (Prospect)

7.93M for 7.95M

Would something like this work?

Yeah.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

With Stamkos out for the foreseeable future, Can't see Yzerman trading Tyler Johnson Tyler Johnson probably will command around $5.5 million per for 5 years Shattenkirk will want at least $6.5 million to $7 million for 6-7 years or so. Don't see Yzerman trading Johnson for a rental in Shattenkirk and i doubt that Tampa can afford Shatty long term.

 

[Bluesnatic27]

:
Tyler Johnson (3.33M - RFA)
Jason Garrison (4.60M)
+ ?

:
Kevin Shattenkirk (4.25M - UFA)
Patrik Berglund (3.70M - UFA)
Ivan Barbashev (Prospect)

7.93M for 7.95M

Would something like this work?

That looks good to me, but I have my reservations with Garrison. I think he's a good player that would complement Pietrangelo, but doesn't he only want to play in Florida and Vancouver? I remember a few years ago there was some idea that the Blues were going to shift Berglund out for him, but it fell through because Garrison didn't want to play here. Or it was something like that.

I could easily be wrong, but I feel that was definitely a thing at one point.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

:
Tyler Johnson (3.33M - RFA)
Jason Garrison (4.60M)
+ ?

:
Kevin Shattenkirk (4.25M - UFA)
Patrik Berglund (3.70M - UFA)
Ivan Barbashev (Prospect)

7.93M for 7.95M

Would something like this work?

Johnson will be cheaper to resign then Shattenkirk, Though Tampa can definitely use RHD like Shattenkirk i think he would be far to expensive to resign especially if he's seeking around $6.5 million to $7 million per for 6-7 years as some have suggested that he might be seeking.

 

[bleedblue1223]

That looks good to me, but I have my reservations with Garrison. I think he's a good player that would complement Pietrangelo, but doesn't he only want to play in Florida and Vancouver? I remember a few years ago there was some idea that the Blues were going to shift Berglund out for him, but it fell through because Garrison didn't want to play here. Or it was something like that.

I could easily be wrong, but I feel that was definitely a thing at one point.

Yeah, that's correct, we had a deal in place for him around Berglund. Maybe Coburn in place. Tampa would still need to find a way to move some more salary out.

 

[Rschmitz]

With Stamkos out for the foreseeable future, Can't see Yzerman trading Tyler Johnson Tyler Johnson probably will command around $5.5 million per for 5 years Shattenkirk will want at least $6.5 million to $7 million for 6-7 years or so. Don't see Yzerman trading Johnson for a rental in Shattenkirk and i doubt that Tampa can afford Shatty long term.

I think we can afford the loss of Johnson for a couple of months without Stamkos. Namestnikov and Filppula down the middle with Point tweening. It's not ideal but I think it's a net gain considering center is a team strength.

I'd find a way to keep Shattenkirk if I were Yzerman. He's a very good fit and provide a Dan Boyle-esque contribution on the PP from the point.

 

[Rschmitz]

Yeah, that's correct, we had a deal in place for him around Berglund. Maybe Coburn in place. Tampa would still need to find a way to move some more salary out.

For this season at least, salary isn't an issue with Stamkos on the IR.

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

I think we can afford the loss of Johnson for a couple of months without Stamkos. Namestnikov and Filppula down the middle with Point tweening. It's not ideal but I think it's a net gain considering center is a team strength.

I'd find a way to keep Shattenkirk if I were Yzerman. He's a very good fit and provide a Dan Boyle-esque contribution on the PP from the point.

With Bishop off the books, Maybe Killorn off to Vegas and with Johnson and maybe Garrison dealt to St Louis if we did a deal like that. Then Yzerman should definitely be able to hold onto Shattenkirk maybe a deal around 6-7 years for $6.5 million should do it. Shatty in Tampa would be sweet and he would definitely help them be a better playoff team here.

 

[BangarangxRufio]

Sooo since we are talking amicably, how can we work a deal for TJ and Bishop from y'all?

 

[LTIR Trickery]

I think we can afford the loss of Johnson for a couple of months without Stamkos. Namestnikov and Filppula down the middle with Point tweening. It's not ideal but I think it's a net gain considering center is a team strength.

I'd find a way to keep Shattenkirk if I were Yzerman. He's a very good fit and provide a Dan Boyle-esque contribution on the PP from the point.

Vladdy has been awful, though. I think there is a very, very large gap between he and Johnson for the forseeable future.

 

[Rschmitz]

With Bishop off the books, Maybe Killorn off to Vegas and with Johnson and maybe Garrison dealt to St Louis if we did a deal like that. Then Yzerman should definitely be able to hold onto Shattenkirk maybe a deal around 6-7 years for $6.5 million should do it. Shatty in Tampa would be sweet and he would definitely help them be a better playoff team here.

Although it's a stretch, it looks like we are in agreement then as to what we would like to see happen

Just a note, with Johnson and Garrison being dealt, that provides two additional expansion slots I believe.

 

[Rschmitz]

Vladdy has been awful, though. I think there is a very, very large gap between he and Johnson for the forseeable future.

He's been in a funk since Stamkos went down, but was fantastic for the first 20ish games. Plus I believe someone offered a deal with Berglund in it, and he'd be the #2 until Stamkos gets back.

 

[Ranksu]

Hmm, I don't see Blues need Garrison or is this cap dump from Tampa side?

 

[Number1RedWingsFan52]

Although it's a stretch, it looks like we are in agreement then as to what we would like to see happen

Just a note, with Johnson and Garrison being dealt, that provides two additional expansion slots I believe.

Yup would love to see Shatty in a Bolts Jersey, Maybe something around Johnson+Garrison for Shattenkirk+Berglund sounds like both Blues and Bolts fans were in agreement with that.

You're probably correct there it should possibly open a couple of expansion slots there.

 

[Oberyn]

He's been in a funk since Stamkos went down, but was fantastic for the first 20ish games. Plus I believe someone offered a deal with Berglund in it, and he'd be the #2 until Stamkos gets back.

You don't want Berglund as your #2. Trust me.

 

[Rschmitz]

Sooo since we are talking amicably, how can we work a deal for TJ and Bishop from y'all?

I don't see a deal which works good for both sides with Bishop in it. Yzerman won't deal Bishop for straight futures or for aged vets.

 

[Dbrownss]

:
Tyler Johnson (3.33M - RFA)
Jason Garrison (4.60M)
+ ?

:
Kevin Shattenkirk (4.25M - UFA)
Patrik Berglund (3.70M - UFA)
Ivan Barbashev (Prospect)

7.93M for 7.95M

Would something like this work?

Id rather keep it just Johnson+Garrison for Shattenkirk+Berglund.

 

[Rschmitz]

You don't want Berglund as your #2. Trust me.

That bad? I don't see another player who'd be worth it in the swap.

 

[Oberyn]

That bad? I don't see another player who'd be worth it in the swap.

He's not a bad player, just not offensively gifted enough to play top six minutes. He'll leave fans wanting more. He could slot in at 3C though.

 

[Dbrownss]

That bad? I don't see another player who'd be worth it in the swap.

Hes an excellent 3c that provides little offense.

Id honestly rather keep but salary is tricky.