Trade: [STL/SD] Jon Jay for Jedd Gyorko

[hockeykicker]

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[Big Poppa Puck]

[STL\SD] Jon Jay for Jedd Gyorko

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

STL must be getting $ too...I don't see why they do this otherwise with Wong entrenched at 2B.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

Don't get this at all from a Cardinals perspective. Gyorko is terrible and has a bad contract.

 

[robert terwilliger]

don't get this from a padres perspective at all. jay is left-handed.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

There was that one year where I really liked Gyorko and thought he was going to have a really solid career...maybe the Cardinals can bring that back out of him.

As it stands that's a brutal contract for a bad player. Hard to say the Cardinals don't deserve the benefit of the doubt in terms of talent recognition, though.

 

[hockeykicker]

opening up a spot in outfield for heyward?

 

[Big McLargehuge]

opening up a spot in outfield for heyward?

Jay should not be starting on any team with playoff aspirations.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

Jon Jay has no effect on Heyward.

 

[DougieSmash]

Jedd Gyorko is definition of terrible player.

 

[Pwnasaurus]

Jedd will be the bench util replacement currently, unless something is happening with Wong which I doubt. Jay is awful. Moz stated that one of the priorities was strengthening the bench and they jettisoned half of an awful bench already (Cruz, Kozma and now Jay). While Jedd is certainly overpaid, Jay was going to get zero playing time in a crowded OF, of which he was the worst option. He might not be Zobrist but I doubt Zobrist would have wanted a full time utility role and now you have a guy that can at least give any infielder the day off. If the Cards don't care about the money, then I don't either.

 

[DougieSmash]

Gyorko worth something around 30 M in next 4 years. His career line against RHP: .228 .278 .379

 

[hockeykicker]

Gyorko worth something around 30 M in next 4 years. His career line against RHP: .228 .278 .379

cardinals are also getting money from padres too so maybe they are paying for a good amount of it

 

[Note Worthy]

This is actually a decent deal from the Cardinals perspective, not sure why people are knocking it.

Gyorko is an upgrade on Pete Kozma, which is who he's basically replacing. The Cardinals have an abundance of outfielders especially since Pham emerged last year. Jon Jay was not really needed in the slightest.

 

[Pwnasaurus]

This is actually a decent deal from the Cardinals perspective, not sure why people are knocking it.

Maybe they haven't seen Jon Jay's amazing ISO

 

[Falco Lombardi]

When you realize who Gyorko is replacing (Pete Kozma) and that Jon Jay was a 6 million dollar 5th outfielder (at best), I don't see how anyone doesn't get this move for the Cardinals.

 

[Big McLargehuge]

Gyorko's contract isn't as bad as I remembered it being, either. I mean it's still going to be lousy, but he's owed $10 million over the next two seasons before then.

 

[Pwnasaurus]

Gyorko's contract isn't as bad as I remembered it being, either. I mean it's still going to be lousy, but he's owed $10 million over the next two seasons before then.

I don't know how much the Pads are picking up but Jay was never going to get at bats here anymore and he really shouldn't be. At least the Cards pick up a guy who can give days off to Carpenter, Wong and Peralta (especially Wong vs LHP). A backup infielder with some pop vs a 6th outfielder who's been battling wrist injuries.....Gyorko isn't getting 500 at bats, I think he's a fine option as a utility player.

 

[Big Poppa Puck]

The problem isn't trading Jon Jay for him. It's having an expensive utility IF with a terrible slash line.

But he does have power and the Padres are kicking in some money and anything is better than Pete Kozma so I'm fine with it I guess.

 

[Pwnasaurus]

Cards get $17M in the deal. Just about half of what's remaining.

Edit: Rosenthal is reporting 9MM. That's a big difference

Jay is making 7MM next year, so that might be the difference though.

 

[SirPaste]

Gyorko has more HRs the last 3 seasons than anyone on the Cardinals, much needed influx of power off the bench

 

[Marc the Habs Fan]

Gyorko has more HRs the last 3 seasons than anyone on the Cardinals, much needed influx of power off the bench

This can't be true? If so,

 

[Falco Lombardi]

This can't be true? If so,

Cardinals are allergic to homeruns

 

[Terry Yake]

what an odd trade

both of these guys suck

 

[MAHJ71]

what an odd trade

both of these guys suck

Not familiar with STL's needs?

They needed a utility IF to backup Wong, Peralta and Carpenter. That is what Gyorko will do. Not to mention he brings more power to their lineup. Add-in that STL got SD to pay part of Gyorko's whopping 32 million remaining and its a solid deal.