Steals from the '05 draft
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Michael Morbid
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Stanislav Lascek, Marek Kvapil, Matt Keetley, Nikolai Lemtyugov, Darren Helm, Nathan Davis, Patrick McNeill, Mathieu Aubin, Matt D'Agostini, etc. etc. etc.
2005 had plenty of late round gems.
2005 had plenty of late round gems.
DanKramerHabs
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I think as of now (though it's obviously still much too early to judge the draft), the Habs had a hell of a draft with Latendresse, Aubin, D'Agostini, and S. Kostitsyn. You can disagree with the Price first round pick, but he does have potential to be a top level starter, and the subsequent picks of a lot of steal potential.
BigE
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No one, yet. I mean what really classifies as a steal one year after the draft? Five years is the normal time table for looking back at the draft, which would put us at 2000 or 2001 (I forget which year THN is on - they may have skipped with due to the lockout).
A player can go from being a late round pick to a steal to a bust, which really means that he wasn't a bust, just a late round pick that panned out like a late round player.
So...wait another 4 years.
A player can go from being a late round pick to a steal to a bust, which really means that he wasn't a bust, just a late round pick that panned out like a late round player.
So...wait another 4 years.
Oiluvit
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BigE said:No one, yet. I mean what really classifies as a steal one year after the draft? Five years is the normal time table for looking back at the draft, which would put us at 2000 or 2001 (I forget which year THN is on - they may have skipped with due to the lockout).
A player can go from being a late round pick to a steal to a bust, which really means that he wasn't a bust, just a late round pick that panned out like a late round player.
So...wait another 4 years.
True, of course... but its fun to talk about emerging steals, which is what I asked about.
1) Jakub Kindl........although he WAS taken in the 1st round, the geniuses at TSn hammered this pick becuase the Wings were gambling becuase Kindl hadn't lived up to his 'potnetial' in his first year w/ Kitchener. Check the stats now. Based on how the pick was derided I'd say it is looking like a steal
2)Johan Ryno
2)Johan Ryno
montreal
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BigE said:No one, yet. I mean what really classifies as a steal one year after the draft? Five years is the normal time table for looking back at the draft, which would put us at 2000 or 2001 (I forget which year THN is on - they may have skipped with due to the lockout).
A player can go from being a late round pick to a steal to a bust, which really means that he wasn't a bust, just a late round pick that panned out like a late round player.
So...wait another 4 years.
I agree that no one is a steal yet cause it's too early. I would assume that people are talking more about guys who were picked late in the draft but have surprised and are having a great year.
My example would be Mathieu Aubin who was taken in the 5th round, 130th overall. This year he scored more goals then he had points in any other season. As one of the top scorers in the QMJHL this year, you could say his success was a surprise and that it's looking like a steal although the guy could end up never playing a game in the NHL. At this point and time though his offensive production could label him a possible steal.
Or a guy like Siarhei Kostitsyn who was picked in the 7th round, 200th overall but went on to lead the OHL in rookie scoring and has been among the top scorers in the OHL playoffs.
Chad Rau, Nikolai Lemtyugov, Anton Stralman, Matt Keetley, Tomas Pospisil, Slava Trukhno, Patrick McNeill, Keith Yandle, Cody Franson, Dan Ryder, Perttu Lindgren all come to mind as possible steals. In time we'll start to see which ones are steals. ( I left out all 1st and 2nd rounders since imo they aren't really steals that high)
Bruins have two potential steals. Jonathan Sigalet and Vladimir Sobotka.
Kalus is looking real good as well for a second rounder.
Kalus is looking real good as well for a second rounder.
I saw Gragnani and Vlasic play side by side and had Gragnani ahead for the draft. Vlasic went first but hey the pros know best.??golleafsgo_17 said:
BigE
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montreal said:
Few, if any, of the names mentioned here will pan out as real steals. I think hype threads such as this supply false hope to those that don't know any better.
For conversation purposes it's great, but I just don't see the sense. Wet blanket, I know.
That's true but I would say a player playing in the NHL before others drafted before him takes presidence. Which I think should be the reason for a thread like this one.BigE said:No one, yet. I mean what really classifies as a steal one year after the draft? Five years is the normal time table for looking back at the draft, which would put us at 2000 or 2001 (I forget which year THN is on - they may have skipped with due to the lockout).
A player can go from being a late round pick to a steal to a bust, which really means that he wasn't a bust, just a late round pick that panned out like a late round player.
So...wait another 4 years.
Tom Wandell. Not even a given he could continue playing, and has in fact played pretty well this year from what I heard.
Actually, an undrafted player too -- Mario Scalzo. He's looked good in Iowa and has not been the defensive liability some feared. Size is still a big issue though.
Actually, an undrafted player too -- Mario Scalzo. He's looked good in Iowa and has not been the defensive liability some feared. Size is still a big issue though.
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