Starting a team: Morgan Rielly vs Charlie McAvoy

[Sojourn]

Rielly AINEC. I'll take the guy about to win the Norris, thanks. Silly question.

Giordano isn’t in this poll.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

If Rielly wins the Norris at 24....not sure how you can't take him

 

[mattydamon]

If Rielly wins the Norris at 24....not sure how you can't take him

We should probably let that happen first then hey?

Having said that I probably take Reilly here - but I would still be super happy with Mcavoy and can understand the choice.

 

[Atomos2]

Giordano isn’t in this poll.

Good thing too. He'd lose by a lot.

 

[Sojourn]

Good thing too. He'd lose by a lot.

Well, duh. He’s 35.

But Giordano is probably the favorite for the Norris, looking at the all-around game.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Just for term left till UFA status. McAvoy easily.

 

[Fire Chevy]

I'd take Rielly seeing how he's improved and is a top 20D but if McAvoy keeps on his trajectory could very well be him good poll

 

[TheDoldrums]

Just for term left till UFA status. McAvoy easily.

Unless he takes a bridge, McAvoy will make much more than Rielly starting next year.

For a current contender, Rielly at $5 million for the next few years is brilliant.

 

[IPS]

Rielly easily. Can't see McAvoy ever being on his level.

 

[Atomos2]

Well, duh. He’s 35.

But Giordano is probably the favorite for the Norris, looking at the all-around game.

Let's cross our fingers and hope so. I'm sure you wouldn't like the outcome on HFboards if a Leaf wins the Norris.

 

[Spirit of 67]

Really good one here.

Condisering it's for the next 10 years and not the next 2 or 3 I went with McAvoy.
I think Rielly is great and will continue to get better. But I think McAvoy can be even better if he hit his ceiling.
I do like the Dought, Keith comparison. Hardware excluded of course.

One other thing, in regard to the Norris discussion; it seems there's a it's his turn thing that's been going on. And, it's probably Gio's turn. Not to say he doesn't deserve it. He does.

 

[lifelonghockeyfan]

Let's cross our fingers and hope so. I'm sure you wouldn't like the outcome on HFboards if a Leaf wins the Norris.

Wouldn't it be the curse of the Leafs, if Reilly wins the Norris, Andersen the Vezina, Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Reilly, Andersen all finish in the top ten in the Hart, and Leafs lose in the first round.

 

[Atomos2]

Wouldn't it be the curse of the Leafs, if Reilly wins the Norris, Andersen the Vezina, Matthews, Marner, Tavares, Reilly, Andersen all finish in the top ten in the Hart, and Leafs lose in the first round.

Yup, and the posters on the main boards of HFboards skip merrily down that yellow brick road.

 

[bearcountry17]

Honestly, the Bruins abuse Rielly so much it's hard to not choose Mcavoy. Rielly's a legit number one guy but Pastrnak plays with him like a cat with a ball of yarn. Very overrated defensively but the kid can skate like the wind and moves the puck very well. If Mcavoy can play like he has returning from his concussion it's him and it's not very close.

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Rielly easily. Can't see McAvoy ever being on his level.

As a Leaf fan, have to disagree here. Very impressed by Charlie

 

[The List Of Jericho]

Honestly, the Bruins abuse Rielly so much it's hard to not choose Mcavoy. Rielly's a legit number one guy but Pastrnak plays with him like a cat with a ball of yarn. Very overrated defensively but the kid can skate like the wind and moves the puck very well. If Mcavoy can play like he has returning from his concussion it's him and it's not very close.

That has a ton to do with him covering up for Hainsey and you know it.

 

[bearcountry17]

That has a ton to do with him covering up for Hainsey and you know it.

Not really. I'm strictly talking about the one on one battles with Pastrnak vs. Reilly. It's like Pasta circles those days on his calendar. He makes him look silly at times.

 

[Sojourn]

Really good one here.

Condisering it's for the next 10 years and not the next 2 or 3 I went with McAvoy.
I think Rielly is great and will continue to get better. But I think McAvoy can be even better if he hit his ceiling.
I do like the Dought, Keith comparison. Hardware excluded of course.

One other thing, in regard to the Norris discussion; it seems there's a it's his turn thing that's been going on. And, it's probably Gio's turn. Not to say he doesn't deserve it. He does.

Yeah, I’m not a fan of that mentality.

If Rielly deserves the Norris more than Giordano by the end of the season, by all means, give it to him. I don’t think that’s the case right this second, mind you, but that’s a different argument. If he deserves it, he deserves it.

I don’t care if a player has one amazing year, and never accomplishes it again. If that one year puts them ahead of every other defenseman, they should get the Norris over another defenseman who has been a high end player for a long time, but keeps missing out.

 

[6ix]

Rielly tbh quite easily right now. Rielly has taken that next step, and with McCavoys injuries he might not get to that level.

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Rielly tbh quite easily right now. Rielly has taken that next step, and with McCavoys injuries he might not get to that level.

Defensively and physically he is already more than at that level. Are you talking about his one concussion and the corrected heart issue?

The Bruins offense isn't that of the Leafs. McAvoy isn't going to have a chance at point per game.

 

[Pyrophorus]

Starting a team? McAvoy. 3 years younger.
For the next couple of years? Rielly.

At 27 he'll be declining?

 

[Pyrophorus]

Giordano isn’t in this poll.

Now this is the player is you want to talk about in regards to age.

 

[WetcoastOrca]

At 27 he'll be declining?

I’m not sure why you quoted my post. I never said that.

 

[Spirit of 67]

Yeah, I’m not a fan of that mentality.

If Rielly deserves the Norris more than Giordano by the end of the season, by all means, give it to him. I don’t think that’s the case right this second, mind you, but that’s a different argument. If he deserves it, he deserves it.

I don’t care if a player has one amazing year, and never accomplishes it again. If that one year puts them ahead of every other defenseman, they should get the Norris over another defenseman who has been a high end player for a long time, but keeps missing out.

I'm not saying I agree with it.
But you can't deny that it seems like that's what they're doing. It's like they make you earn it over more than just 1 year.

 

[Sojourn]

I'm not saying I agree with it.
But you can't deny that it seems like that's what they're doing. It's like they make you earn it over more than just 1 year.

Oh, no. I apologize. I was more elaborating my feelings on what you said. You obviously didn’t agree, and I agree with you that this does seem to be the case recently. It’s not a trend I like.

I don’t care what Rielly was last season, in regards to the Norris. If he deserves to win it when the final game is played, he deserves to win it. I don’t care if his competition has more history and longevity. The award is for this season only.