Special teams including SHG

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    First, I apologize if (a) this is common knowledge; or (b) someone else has already done this. I'm pretty new to hockey stats, though I've been a fan of the game for a long time. I searched, but didn't find something similar.

    It seems to me that short-handed goals ought to count as far as a team's special-teams performance. A great PP isn't so great if you give up a lot of SHG, and a great PK can be even better if you score a lot of SHG.

    So, as of 2/23/19, here are the top teams in the league for special teams offense, calculated as (PP goals - SHG allowed) / PP minutes:

    1Tampa28.8%
    2SJ23.0%
    3Winnepeg22.6%
    4Boston20.9%
    5Florida20.9%
    6NYR20.1%
    7Calgary20.1%
    8Minny20.0%
    9Chicago19.8%
    10Colorado19.7%

    And here are the top teams in the league for special teams defense, calculated as (PP goals allowed - SHG scored) / SH minutes:

    1Arizona92.7%
    2Tampa88.4%
    3NJ87.7%
    4SJ87.1%
    5Vegas87.0%
    6Columbus86.8%
    7Calgary86.6%
    8Pittsburgh86.0%
    9Nashville84.5%
    10Winnepeg84.4%

    Two thoughts: (1) dang, Tampa Bay's PP is really lights-out, way better than anyone else in the league. (2) dang, Arizona's PK is just as good as Tampa's PP.

    Finally, here's an attempt to calculate the average goals/game due to special teams. It's calculated as (PPG + SHG - PPGA - SHGA) / G:

    1Tampa0.58
    2SJ0.31
    3Calgary0.28
    4Arizona0.25
    5Winnepeg0.21
    6Florida0.20
    7Boston0.13
    8Vegas0.10
    9NJ0.08
    10Pittsburgh0.07
    11Minny0.06
    12Dallas0.03
    13Colorado0.03
    14Columbus0.02
    15Toronto0.02
    16NYI0.00

    Any team not on this list is a net negative for special teams--they're giving up more goals in special-teams situations than they're scoring.

    Again, quick reaction: (a) Tampa is nearly twice as good as the next positive team, San Jose; (b) Toronto is essentially special-teams neutral, which surprises me; (c) Arizona may not have a great PP%, but their special teams contribute a lot to their offense.
     
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    How do you divide goals by minutes and get percentages?
     
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    Oops, you're right . . . reading the tables more closely, should be opportunities (both PP and PPA).
     
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    Factoring in some PPs and PKs last shorter, would make it better, though.

    Say, an obvious example: getting a PP when it's just a minute left of the game.
     
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    Or the often-very-short PP after a long 4v4 is over. Note that the short PP that preceded the long 4v4 is a genuinely failed PP.
     
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    I think the last table is actually the mos interesting though.

    Basically it merges all these statistics into the one that matters: PK%, SHGA, SHG, PP%, penalties taken, penalties committed by opponent. Bottom line, how many goals-per-game do special teams provide/cost?
     

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