Value of: Skjei to Habs

Benstheman

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2 questions to NYR fans :

1) in what proportion is he available ?
2) What would it cost from Habs point of view?

Personnaly, i think a trade around him and Lehkonen would be logical. But maybe NYR looking more for picks, i don't know.
 

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2 questions to NYR fans :

1) in what proportion is he available ?
2) What would it cost from Habs point of view?

Personnaly, i think a trade around him and Lehkonen would be logical. But maybe NYR looking more for picks, i don't know.

Didn't the rangers sign him long term last summer? Feel like he's probably a building block for them moving forward.
 

Benstheman

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Didn't the rangers sign him long term last summer? Feel like he's probably a building block for them moving forward.

That's what i logically think but i have seen a lot of NYR fans posts saying he is disponible, like every other NYR Dmen. So that's why i'm asking for NYR fans about it.

Thanks for your opinion.
 

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I don't know that the Rangers are going to make Skjei an untouchable. If they moved him for futures, I am fairly certain they would want to start with Suzuki, who they were very high on during his draft year. A pick figures in as well. Hard to say though. It's a guy the Rangers don't have to move, and I have no idea what Montreal has either.
 

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He CAN be a building block, so you would have to overpay to get him, nyr doesnt have to deal him and eventually he can be a fine #2-3.

my guess, is it'll cost you top prospect and a first rounder , its a good contract
 
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Benstheman

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I don't know that the Rangers are going to make Skjei an untouchable. If they moved him for futures, I am fairly certain they would want to start with Suzuki, who they were very high on during his draft year. A pick figures in as well. Hard to say though. It's a guy the Rangers don't have to move, and I have no idea what Montreal has either.

I would be interested in a deal between Suzuki and Skjei. I would agree to add Habs 3rd or Columbus 2nd.
 

Benstheman

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He CAN be a building block, so you would have to overpay to get him, nyr doesnt have to deal him and eventually he can be a fine #2-3.

my guess, is it'll cost you top prospect and a first rounder , its a good contract

Thanks for your input.

That being said, it is an absolute no for me to add our first (most likely middle round) to a prospect like Suzuki or Brook. We could get a better D with our 2019 1st pick and i think Brook has also great NHL potential.

I would go as far as Suzuki + Columbus 2019 2nd and maybe add a later round pick but not more than that.
 

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2 questions to NYR fans :

1) in what proportion is he available ?
2) What would it cost from Habs point of view?

Personnaly, i think a trade around him and Lehkonen would be logical. But maybe NYR looking more for picks, i don't know.
Lol, that is a downright atrocious base to a trade. Skjei is a good young d-man and lehkonen will be at best a middling middle six player who also has never hit 30 points.
 

Benstheman

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Lol, that is a downright atrocious base to a trade. Skjei is a good young d-man and lehkonen will be at best a middling middle six player who also has never hit 30 points.

Off course Habs would have to add. But your evaluation is biaised. Other way to see it is Skjei is 2 years older, trending down production wise and have a 5,25M$ contract. Lehkonen is trending up production wise, will hit 40 pts with almost no pp time and is one of our best two-way forward. Will probably sign 3M$/per long term contract.
 

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I would rather keep Lehkonen if we're making a push. Suzuki+ for Skjei would definitely interest me.
 
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habsgirl5000

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would take a severe over payment from us,

but never doubt MB if he gets desperate enough,

but i cant really see MB pulling a trade like this off, even if he does over pay

NYR would probably start by asking for Kotka+ or Suzuki+ and thats where the conversation would end
 

Benstheman

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would take a severe over payment from us,

but never doubt MB if he gets desperate enough,

but i cant really see MB pulling a trade like this off, even if he does over pay

NYR would probably start by asking for Kotka+ or Suzuki+ and thats where the conversation would end

Thanks.

If they ask for Kotkaniemi alone, it's a big no from us off course and AINEC. Suzuki + is another story for me. I don't see him as a center in the NHL and our wings are stacked right now. Wouldn't add a 1st to Suzuki though. Suzuki + 2nd is fair IMO and might interest NYR.
 

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as a ranger fan i wouldnt expect montreal to deal kotkaniemi for skjei.

what are the internal opinions on mete and juulsen right now, could they be had in a deal?
nyr two biggest needs (in my opinion) are still scoring wingers and defense
 

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My guess is
Suzuki + our first top 10 protected
For
Skjei + 3rd/4th/5th depending on where our first is.
Or something along those lines, if we can sign a good UFA forward I'd do it.
 
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Just take him. Give us an IOU.

If the offer was a first, plus a really good prospect, he's all yours. I just don't think he's going to be much of a fit for the Rangers going forward. I think we want to push him as a top defender, but he's not #1, or #2.
 

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Eh, I'd rather Montreal didn't pay the apparent asking price for Skjei. He's really struggled the last couple of seasons and he wont be cheap either.
 
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Lays

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I wouldn’t mind moving him but right now I don’t think we want to just because of how the defense would look like
If our D prospects pan out then he’d be moved
 

Mersss

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I don't know that the Rangers are going to make Skjei an untouchable. If they moved him for futures, I am fairly certain they would want to start with Suzuki, who they were very high on during his draft year. A pick figures in as well. Hard to say though. It's a guy the Rangers don't have to move, and I have no idea what Montreal has either.

Las thing the Habs need is to trade a very promising top6 forward for yet another 4-5-6 D

If Skjei was a surfire top3 D we could talk, but it's not the case
 
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The S5

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Las thing the Habs need is to trade a very promising top6 forward for yet another 4-5-6 D

If Skjei was a surfire top3 D we could talk, but it's not the case

So, an unproven kid is a top 6 F, but a 3rd year D, who has done nothing but play top/2nd pairing is barely a 4?
Okey Dokey.
 
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Mersss

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So, an unproven kid is a top 6 F, but a 3rd year D, who has done nothing but play top/2nd pairing is barely a 4?
Okey Dokey.

Could you read correctly please? I said a PROMISING top6 F cause we all know Suzuki will either be top6 or bust he's not suited for bottom 6 duty.

We'd rather keep our young bluechipper then trade them away for another 4-5-6D which we have more then enough of! Skjei has been playing top4 role and has been very bad at it for the past 2 years. Therefore, as long as he can't prove he can't handle such workload, he's considered a bottom pairing option.
 

The S5

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Could you read correctly please? I said a PROMISING top6 F cause we all know Suzuki will either be top6 or bust he's not suited for bottom 6 duty.

We'd rather keep our young bluechipper then trade them away for another 4-5-6D which we have more then enough of! Skjei has been playing top4 role and has been very bad at it for the past 2 years. Therefore, as long as he can't prove he can't handle such workload, he's considered a bottom pairing option.

Skjei hasn't been his best, but keep in mind that the Rangers are hot garbage. Sans a few players and youngsters with very little experience, they are bereft of talent. Any player will not look very good in that situation.
But, its doubtful the Rangers would trade him for an unknown, so no need to worry.
 

Mersss

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Skjei hasn't been his best, but keep in mind that the Rangers are hot garbage. Sans a few players and youngsters with very little experience, they are bereft of talent. Any player will not look very good in that situation.
But, its doubtful the Rangers would trade him for an unknown, so no need to worry.

Habs are also hot garbage, so I don't see how he could thrive here more then in NY. Habs Roster doesn't have much more talent vs NY, hence why trading a very young promising player for a bottom pairing D
 

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Skjei could end up being a similar player to Petry with good coaching and if put in the right situation.
But, I wouldn't give Suzuki + for him. I wouldn't want to deal for him now or until the trade deadline. I would wait for the summer for that type of deal. If we end up making the playoffs and pick around 20, I might consider trader our 1st for him. I personnally don't think he has much more value then a 1st around 18-25.
 

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