Proposal: Simon Despres for Tobias Rieder

[Ducks in a row]

So in the trade board thread of Simon Despres their was a Tobias Rieder offer and some Ducks fans seem to have interest wonder what more Ducks fans think.

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[salsa man]

Rather have Despres

 

[GermanRocket7]

Given just how bad Depres looked out there the last few games, I start to question his chances of ever reaching the level he was at before the concussion again. Rieder looks like a gem and could help solidy us down the middle for the time when Getzlaf and Kesler will inevitably wind down. However, I'd try to squeeze a bit more out of Phoenix in this deal.

Maybe something like this?

Rieder + 3rd
for
Depres + 7th

Rieder should be had for about 2.0-2.5M AAV for the next three years, so we would also unload some salary we could use to re-sign Hampus and Vats. As of now, I feel like Depres would only be a #5/#6 defenseman, and I would much rather have Rieder and a re-signed Holzer as our solid journeyman for the price tag Depres has.

 

[Kalv]

Expansion draft also plays part. With F`s PHX has they probably wouldn`t protect Rieder but would we?

It is likely we wouldn`t be able to protect Despres.

Although it`s hard to say as no one knows the rules of them yet, but that will play a part in the upcoming deals across the NHL.

 

[Elvs]

I don't think Arizona does that trade straight up. Rieder can skate, has nice hands and can kill penalties.

Dave Tippett:

“I don’t like to compare players, but when I watch Rieder, I see him doing a lot of the same things Jere Lehtinen did in Dallas. And you know what I thought of Lehtinen”.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

We have enough bottom 6 players.

 

[mightyquack]

Rather have Despres, don't rate Rieder that much and can't really put much stock in Despres struggles since coming back given how tough it is to come back from a serious concussion mid-season. Rather keep Despres and see if he can reach his top level again with an injury free season (hopfully) then give up on him for a 3rd liner.

Rieder should be had for about 2.0-2.5M AAV for the next three years, so we would also unload some salary we could use to re-sign Hampus and Vats. As of now, I feel like Depres would only be a #5/#6 defenseman, and I would much rather have Rieder and a re-signed Holzer as our solid journeyman for the price tag Depres has.

You want Despres gone because you think he's only a 3rd pairing guy but want to sign a #7 like Holzer to the contract Despres got?

 

[Mortal Wombat]

You want Despres gone because you think he's only a 3rd pairing guy but want to sign a #7 like Holzer to the contract Despres got?

I think he means having both Rieder and Holzer for the $$$ of Despres so not the same contract.

 

[AngelDuck]

Despres is still young and has played at a top 4 level at times for this team. He's also 6'4, which is important with how many small puck movers we have coming up. He's got shutdown #3 defenseman potential, and just needs to be consistent and healthy to reach that. I wouldn't give that kind of upside away for Reider (who I don't think is much more than a 2nd/3rd line tweener).

Despres has had a lot of bad luck this year with injuries but even still he's not a liability out there. Give him a full healthy season before we think about getting rid of him

 

[Nordic*]

Despres has a mush head.

Rieder 100%.

Holzer is a very good bottom pairing D.

 

[mightyquack]

I think he means having both Rieder and Holzer for the $$$ of Despres so not the same contract.

Makes sense, but if we're getting rid of Despres (not that I'm on board with that) I'd rather dedicate all of that money to keeping Vatanen instead of giving most of it to a 3rd line forward and a #7 guy.

 

[Mortal Wombat]

Makes sense, but if we're getting rid of Despres (not that I'm on board with that) I'd rather dedicate all of that money to keeping Vatanen instead of giving most of it to a 3rd line forward and a #7 guy.

Yeah. Between Vatanen and Despres I would rather keep Vatanen (although lack of size on D could become a problem), but that is a discussion for another thread.

 

[Ducks in a row]

Rather have Despres

If Despres didn't have injury problems I would agree.

We have enough bottom 6 players.

14 goals 23 assists 37 points in 82 games

That would be top 6 in goals and assists for the Ducks.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

If Despres didn't have injury problems I would agree.



14 goals 23 assists 37 points in 82 games

That would be top 6 in goals and assists for the Ducks.

That doesn't make him a top 6 player. People complain about having too many Coglianos already. But they want another 15 goal 35 point guy?

 

[Ducks in a row]

That doesn't make him a top 6 player. People complain about having too many Coglianos already. But they want another 15 goal 35 point guy?

He would be for the Ducks. He might not be overall but he is still better then most forwards we have.

With Despres injury problems I worry about the future with him. Don't see us getting a lot more if he was traded.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

He would be for the Ducks. He might not be overall but he is still better then most forwards we have.

With Despres injury problems I worry about the future with him. Don't see us getting a lot more if he was traded.

He is absolutely not better than most of the forwards we have right now.

 

[Ducks in a row]

He is absolutely not better than most of the forwards we have right now.

We have the following players better and under contract past this season

Getzlaf
Perry
Kesler
Rakell
Silfverberg

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

We have the following players better and under contract past this season

Getzlaf
Perry
Kesler
Rakell
Silfverberg

You wouldn't want to spend a tiny bit more and get an actual top 6 player? Are you Henry or Susan?

 

[Ducks in a row]

You wouldn't want to spend a tiny bit more and get an actual top 6 player? Are you Henry or Susan?

Like who?

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Like who?

You can't think of anyone on the team right now you'd pay to keep around?

 

[Ducks in a row]

You can't think of anyone on the team right now you'd pay to keep around?

Perron is going to end up going to free agency I would guess.

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Perron is going to end up going to free agency I would guess.

I'm asking who you'd rather have. Not who you'd settle for.

 

[Ducks in a row]

I'm asking who you'd rather have. Not who you'd settle for.

Well of course would like to sign Perron but if it doesn't happen is adding Rieder really so terrible?

 

[The Midnight Burrito]

Well of course would like to sign Perron but if it doesn't happen is adding Rieder really so terrible?

Is "he's not so terrible" how we're navigating our Cup window? That's cool with you?

 

[Ducks in a row]

Is "he's not so terrible" how we're navigating our Cup window? That's cool with you?

If Perron wants to be UFA then we can trade Vatanen for a top 6 forward. If we do that I am sure their will be a lot of complaining in the Ducks board. If we don't trade Vatanen then trading Despres for Rieder is a solid option. I am really concerned with Despres and his injury problems. If Perron walk to free agency and we are not going to trade Vatanen we won't be adding a top 6 forward then (Fowler stays and don't see us getting a top 6 forward from free agency)