Should/will Miika Kiprusoff be a HHOFer?

[Felidae]

Was gonna do this during Kiprusoff's retirement night but forgot.

2 questions, do you personally think he should be a HHOfer, and do you think he will be get in eventually?

Remember that goalie is the hardest position to get into the HHOF. Some of the best of their generation are not in. Joseph, Vanbiesbrouck, Thomas. All have won vezina's, or were finalists multiple times to, just to name a few.

Career overview


Regular season

Wins: 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 10
31st all time

SV%: 2, 3, 9, 9, 10
37th all time

GAA: 1, 1, 7
29th all time

Shutouts: 1, 3, 6
37th all time.

Playoffs
21st all time in sv%
64th all time in wins
34th all time in shutouts
41st all time in GAA


Award record
Vezina: 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 8
Hart: 4,

Some of these stats don't matter much from an individual perspective, but to the HHOF they probably do.

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[Iggys Dome]

I love Kipper but I don’t think he will

 

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I love Kipper but I don’t think he will

if one of the biggest Flames homers is saying no, then that should give you a clear picture..

Kipper won’t make the cut

 

[OKR]

Talent wise, resounding yes. Career wise? Might’ve not done enough to get in.

 

[Satan]

His flame didn't burn for long enough

 

[Legion34]

Curtis Joseph is the next goalie who needs to be in

 

[AfroThunder396]

Hall of Very Good

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Missing a He is and He will option.
One of the greatest goalies ever to play this sport

 

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Missing a He is and He will option.
One of the greatest goalies ever to play this sport

I’m sure your list has khabibulin as well

 

[mr figgles]

Always liked him, but absolutely not. He might get in at some point in a weak class though.

 

[Montreal Shadow]

Nah and he shouldn’t be. Great talent but he just hasn’t done enough at the NHL level.

 

[Artorius Horus T]

played 7 x 70+ game seasons in a row
just 1 fewer what Marty Brodeur

Kipper had better stats, Marty had more wins
(in that span)

Kipper to the HHOF will be one of the easiest things ever

Nah and he shouldn’t be. Great talent but he just hasn’t done enough at the NHL level.

LOL...

 

[Artorius Horus T]

The Scorpion save was named after his unique save.
- that term is still used today.

 

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The Scorpion save was named after his unique save.
- that term is still used today.

Acknowledge Khabibulin as one of the most electrifying goaltenders to play, like I acknowledged Kipper

 

[Artorius Horus T]

All time Canadian based franchises

1. Price 361 wins (Canadiens) - 712 games
2. Plante 360 wins (Canadiens, Leafs, Oilers) - 645 games
3. Kiprusoff 305 wins (Flames) - 576 games
4. Broda 304 wins (Leafs) - 629
5. Fuhr 269 wins (Oilers, Leafs, Flames) - 570 games
6 Hellebuyck 267 wins (none 1976 Jets) - 489 games
7. Vernon 262 wins (Flames) - 524 games
8. Roy 258 wins (Canadiens) - 552 games
9. Dryden 256 wins (Canadiens) - 397 games
10. Hainsworth 246 (Canadiens, Leafs) - 465 games

 

[Toby91ca]

Remember that goalie is the hardest position to get into the HHOF.

What do you mean by that? Remember? As if it’s a known fact? I’d say it’s certainly subjective, but from a statistical perspective the proportion of HHOF members that are goalies is significantly higher than the proportion of goalies vs skaters that actually play.

 

[CascadiaPuck]

Was gonna do this during Kiprusoff's retirement night but forgot.

2 questions, do you personally think he should be a HHOfer, and do you think he will be get in eventually?

Remember that goalie is the hardest position to get into the HHOF. Some of the best of their generation are not in. Joseph, Vanbiesbrouck, Thomas. All have won vezina's, or were finalists multiple times to, just to name a few.

Career overview


Regular season

Wins: 1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 10
31st all time

SV%: 2, 3, 9, 9, 10
37th all time

GAA: 1, 1, 7
29th all time

Shutouts: 1, 3, 6
37th all time.

Playoffs
21st all time in sv%
64th all time in wins
34th all time in shutouts
41st all time in GAA


Award record
Vezina: 1, 2, 3, 5, 7, 8, 8
Hart: 4,

Some of these stats don't matter much from an individual perspective, but to the HHOF they probably do.

Until recently, goalie odds were tough for getting in. The last couple years have really changed things though. Now it looks different.

Anyhow, I have Kpper (and some other 21st century goalies) ahead of MAF who everyone says is a lock. But I’m doubtful it’ll shake out like that.

 

[Montreal Shadow]

All time Canadian based franchises

1. Price 361 wins (Canadiens) - 712 games
2. Plante 360 wins (Canadiens, Leafs, Oilers) - 645 games
3. Kiprusoff 305 wins (Flames) - 576 games
4. Broda 304 wins (Leafs) - 629
5. Fuhr 269 wins (Oilers, Leafs, Flames) - 570 games
6 Hellebuyck 267 wins (none 1976 Jets) - 489 games
7. Vernon 262 wins (Flames) - 524 games
8. Roy 258 wins (Canadiens) - 552 games
9. Dryden 256 wins (Canadiens) - 397 games
10. Hainsworth 246 (Canadiens, Leafs) - 465 games

Why would you stop at Canadian teams? Doesn't look as impressive if you include the 28 other teams in the league?

 

[Artorius Horus T]

Why would you stop at Canadian teams? Doesn't look as impressive if you include the 28 other teams in the league?

Because he only played for a Canadian team, that's why.

Honestly, i can't believe how underrated and such Kipper is here at HFBoards
i thought most would agree with me.

When he was at his prime, he was the best goalie in the world, no contest.
And this is not just coming from a Finn, this,.. i thought was general knowledge..
but i guess most don't remember, or never saw Kipper play.

If Flames had a 1C when Iggy and Kipper were at their prime
they would have won multiple Cups.

All-do-respect to C Conroy but he wasn't even 2C.

 

[Montreal Shadow]

Because he only played for a Canadian team, that's why.

Again, why does it matter? The NHL has 32 teams now and 30 when Kipper played.

Honestly, i can't believe how underrated and such Kipper is here at HFBoards
i thought most would agree with me.

When he was at his prime, he was the best goalie in the world, no contest.
And this is not just coming from a Finn, this,.. i thought was general knowledge..
but i guess most don't remember, or never saw Kipper play.

If Flames had a 1C when Iggy and Kipper were at their prime
they would have won multiple Cups.

All-do-respect to C Conroy but he wasn't even 2C.

Nobody said he wasn't very good. He's just not HHOF material, especially when the bar is notoriously high for goalies. And that's honestly a good thing because the position hasn't been bastardized by having a bunch of guys who don't belong.

 

[Jorma Heart]

Best goalie in the world 2004-2007. He belongs in the HHOF

 

[Video Nasty]

Why would you stop at Canadian teams? Doesn't look as impressive if you include the 28 other teams in the league?

I’m usually not one to comment much on wins by a goalie, but it should be noted that he was 23rd all-time in Wins upon retirement.

Also, when he posted his third 40+ win season of his career, he matched Sawchuk and Plante, with Brodeur the only goalie having more at that point in time (x7).

He certainly wasn’t unimpressive

 

[SeanMoneyHands]

Yes because he was that good, Hasek-lite in his prime years.

 

[Steven Toast]

I think he should, but I don't think he will. The HHOF has a high bar for goalies to make it.

 

[The Great Mighty Poo]

Hall of really-incredibly Good.