Should Umberger be bought out in June, 2016?

[Curufinwe]

Umberger's 16-17 cap hit = $4,600,000

Buyout cap hits: 16-17 = $1,600,000; 17-18 = $1,500,000

http://www.generalfanager.com/buyouts/1558?day=15&year=2016

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[JayRosehillMVP]

3 mil in relief? Easy. Could pick up a good bottom six guy with that money

 

[Flyerfan4life]

whatever it takes to get him off the roster for next season or sooner is ok with me...

 

[tade]

Definitely YES!!! Please, no another season with Umberger.

 

[McNasty]

I would probably say no unless there is a no brainer acquisition that requires the 3M in cap space. No reason to take on dead money otherwise.

 

[Embiid]

Right now the only highly visible blemish of Hextall's tenure....he needs to be eradicated ASAP...

 

[tade]

whatever it takes to get him off the roster for next season or sooner is ok with me...

There is no another possibility of how to get him off the roster. He has NMC and he has absolutely negative value. Only buyout.

 

[Rebels57]

Easy yes

 

[Jaraco]

Pretty much has to be done, for sanity's sake.

 

[catbellysqueezer]

How many buyouts/salary retentions have we done over the past 10 years?

 

[Protest]

I assumed this was the plan the day they traded for him, so yes.

 

[Tedeward]

We are not winning much within the next few years. Why not just bite the the bullet now so when the prospects come up his contract will be completely off the books.

 

[Appleyard]

Yes.

It was likely the whole reason for the trade in the first place... the fact his buyout is pretty nice as the shorter term...

not really much downside to a buyout, especially as when you look at 2017-18 from a cap perspective:

Voracek ($8.25m) -- Giroux ($8.275m) -- Simmonds ($3.975m)
Raffl ($2.5m) -- Couturier ($4.33m) -- Schenn ($4m)
Read ($3.625m) -- Laughton ($2m) -- Konecny ($0.925m)

Del Zotto ($4.5m) -- Gudas ($3m)
Morin ($0.863m) -- Gostisbehere ($4m)
Provorov ($0.925m) -- MacDonald ($5m)

Mason ($6m)
Stolarz ($1.5m)

Umberger buyout ($1.5m)

$65.17m

so will likely be ~$6.2m space with 3 4th liners and a #7 to get... and that is assuming some pretty decent raises for people, some of whom will likely not be here, MacDonald & Read still being here and the cap not going up.

 

[bb12]

I said yes because he is one step closer to a clean team. Grossmann, Prongers contract, Vinny, Macdonald, L.Schenn and Gagner.

All but Umberger and AMac will be gone July 1. Amac is at least serviceable and his hit won't be so bad with ecls coming and so much dead weight off the books.

Vdv and white fall in the category of making this an unclean team but with their cap hit don't really factor

 

[Stizzle]

We are not winning much within the next few years. Why not just bite the the bullet now so when the prospects come up his contract will be completely off the books.

He's only on the books for 2 years, and it's only 1.5m. That's not hindering the prospects in the slightest.

This is a no-brainer. I've thought this option was the most attractive thing about acquiring Umberger from day 1. His buyout number is awesome.

 

[Stizzle]

I assumed this was the plan the day they traded for him, so yes.

It probably was.

 

[Vlad*]

Umberger needs to be launched off into space

 

[onlylordsvsmorebp]

i never want to see that useless **** in a flyers uniform again.

 

[Juicy Pop]

Yes. Save Hakstol from himself.

 

[Tripod]

I originally thought no just to have the clean slate in 2017/18.

But seeing what his buyout is, it's an easy yes. Having 3 million to use next year and the following year is better than 4.5 on Umberger in 2016 then 4.5 million in someone else.

Hell, just think, his 3 million saved + 4.5 saved on Vinny can be used on Boedker if we wish. Not all of it of course. But talk about a better use of money!

 

[CanadianFlyer88]

Only if, when Hextall evaluates the situation, he sees a benefit to freeing $3M for next season.

If he determines that the Flyers will have significant cap room for 2016/17, might as well keep him to get him off the books for 2017/18.

***I haven't looked at the Flyers cap numbers for next year, so it might be necessary to save the $3M next year.

 

[Dark One]

I'd rather have $1.6M and $1.5M in dead cap space over two seasons than $4.6M in dead cap space over one, so absolutely, yes.

 

[explosive skating]

This guy has hands made of steel

 

[TheKingPin]

No question. Umberger is a negative player.

 

[SolidSnakeUS]

Yes, yes yes yes yes. For anyone that says no, should be shot out of a cannon into the ****ing sun.