Should the jets disclose their draft list the day after the draft?
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garret9
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The Flyers documentary I watched had a whole lot of blurred out names, other than the guy they took. How is that representative of full disclosure?
I would say no. Why let every other team in the league see how we rank players? They may be able to draw conclusions that could hurt the Jets in trade discussions.
CorgisPer60
Barking at the net
This. I don't really care where the Jets rank players, so long as they are able to draft quality players.
Yes it's true that the Flyers blurred a number of names on their list on their selection board. I still can't imagine disclosure after the draft would be harmful. The only thing I see is that management doesn't want people pointing the finger at them should they have not predicted well.
Puckatron 3000
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I don't believe you.
I bet you'd love to see that list.
But yeah, I agree there may be a price to pay showing your hand. So I would advise against it, too.
I'd love it if the Jets revealed that to me, as long as they don't share it with anyone else. I'm against anything that might reduce their competitive advantage.
I think the first version of the Flyers video forgot to blur out the names and various folks pieced together most of it.
Jetsetter said:
Teams don't stand to benefit much from revealing their entire lists. You never know if you'll get a chance to acquire a guy down the road. If the other team knows you had a certain guy rated highly, they would have some modicum of leverage.
The Jets don't have a pick between #36 and #97. Hypothetically they might have a first round grade on somebody who gets picked in that range. That guy might be available at the next deadline. As others mentioned, it'd be like showing your cards since the proverbial game of poker doesn't necessarily end at the Draft.
For us fans, it would be interesting. The Blue Jackets did this to a certain degree for the 2006 and 2007 Drafts when they let Gare Joyce write a book as an adopted member of their staff. But even then, Joyce concealed most of their list and mostly talked about just the guys Columbus took. Off hand, he did say that Claude Giroux was #11 on their list in 2006 which was much higher than most had him. In 2007, he mentions that if Voracek/Gagner hadn't been there at #7, Columbus would have likely chosen between Ryan McDonagh and Kevin Shattenkirk.
Agree.... 0.0000000% chance I let any other team see any info on what I think about players that could one day be made available via trade or waiver wire
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They have zero incentive to do so. If they expose their list after the draft they risk looking foolish as inevitably they will have a couple of great players ranked lower than they should be and a couple of meh players ranked higher than they should be. That will become fodder for the internet to laugh at much like the 'Flyers ranking Morin higher than Monahan' has become
Agreed. We'll know soon who they like at #2.
As for #22, lots can happen leading up to the pick. Part of the excitement. Knowing more after the fact, may be interesting, but is very risky for the organization. Organization secrets are just that.
Sweech
Oh When the Spurs
They could lose some competitive advantage by disclosing it as well as opening themselves up for ridicule.
There's absolutely nothing to gain from this. Pleasing fans isn't actually that big of an insentive to be bluntly honest.
There's absolutely nothing to gain from this. Pleasing fans isn't actually that big of an insentive to be bluntly honest.
There is zero to gain by releasing that list and much to lose - and my thoughts go right to the players. How would they feel having confirmation that they were the Jets' third or fourth choice for a given pick? Young guys with fragile egos might take that kind of thing to heart.
Years from now Chevy gets the call: "we know you wanted this guy, now you can have him. For a premium price, of course."
Even minor negatives are negatives.
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Years from now Chevy gets the call: "we know you wanted this guy, now you can have him. For a premium price, of course."
Even minor negatives are negatives.
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Short answer: No.
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooo.
It would be awesome to be a fly on the wall in their war room on draft day / leading up to the draft. It would be exciting to see their list and how many of their guys they got. It would be awful if the entire general public had that information.
Long answer: Nooooooooooooooooooooo.
It would be awesome to be a fly on the wall in their war room on draft day / leading up to the draft. It would be exciting to see their list and how many of their guys they got. It would be awful if the entire general public had that information.
Puckatron 3000
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Coach G
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but why?
where they are at June 2016 does not portray how organizations feel about them 3, 6, 12 or 24 months later.
players progress, and players regress
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Why not release it only to Jet fans prior to the draft so we can follow along at home. We just have to promise not to give the list to other teams. We can keep a secret can'tbwe?
Coach G
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Why not release it only to Jet fans prior to the draft so we can follow along at home. We just have to promise not to give the list to other teams. We can keep a secret can'tbwe?
Oh, sure, sports fans in general (and HFBoards fans in particular) are great at keeping secrets.
Maybe just the two of us, then?
The Canucks inadvertently released their 2010 draft board (the screenshot is missing now, but Cancuks Army transcribed it - Burmi at #3! Melchiori #23!!) http://canucksarmy.com/2013/6/24/did-the-canucks-post-their-2010-draft-board
I don't see why any team would ever deliberately reveal their list. Trade secrets. Second guessing. It sure would be interesting though...
I don't see why any team would ever deliberately reveal their list. Trade secrets. Second guessing. It sure would be interesting though...
It could be used against them for sure. Would love it as a fan, and you are right it would bring a lot of second guessing. But how you scout should be mostly proprietary if you want to give yourself the biggest advantage.
Hey, since they had Burmi so high maybe they would trade the #5 pick for him.
Heck, even throw in Melchiori and the 22nd.Seriously though, no reason to show the list.
