Blue Jays Discussion: Shapiro presser | Tony LaCava named interim GM, Gibbons to return next year
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Another good Bat never hurts. Elite Defence in LF. And you don't really experience Diminishing Returns from adding to a strength in baseball like you do other sports.
There is a school of thought that believes adding an elite bat to a great hitting team has a bigger impact than adding an elite arm to a great hitting team.
Also Heyward is only 26 and would be a good long term investment and a Heyward/Travis/Donaldson/Tulo/One of Bautista or Edwin DHing/Martin hitting core would keep us as a high level team (As long as we continue to build the rest of our well) as Bautista/Edwin/Martin age would be very effective and I believe in our organization's ability to draft/find young pitching talent better than to find hitting talent.
Admittedly it'd be dependant on our ability to have Osuna/Sanchez convert into Rotation Pitchers.
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because of 'dat 6.0 fWAR.
Indeed, and the age. And people are right to be attracted to those things.
But when Prop Joe sees that over half of his perceived value is derived from his defense, and that said defense is provided at the second least important defensive position on a baseball field...
And then sees a .339 wOBA and 117 wRC+ over the last three years....
And then sees ~$23MM aav....
Why don't I just trade for Josh Reddick instead, and use that $16MM elsewhere.
Swervin81
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Give Buehrle the QO so when he signs the 1 day contract to retire as a White Sox they have to give us a pick
Even if that happened they'd wait until after the draft to do that so they wouldn't have to give us a pick.
Reparations for Mike Sirotka.
Nasty Nazem
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Bad News Benning
Fallin for Dahlin?
sign Price and we don't have to worry about losing a 1st round pick.
Kazmir or Leake won't cost us a 1st round pick so those should be other top targets.
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Shimso
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Maybe this is why I'm not a GM/Manager, but I don't want to give up any of our bats (and yes, I know you can't get anything without giving up anything). Even with a SP lineup that needs work, I like having and watching an offensive powerhouse.
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Eyedea
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To be fair, Heyward is probably a CF. He's just been blocked by "true CFs" like Bourn and BJ Upton.
KuleminFan41
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It's Bob McCown, best not listen to him too much. He may be right but its not exactly a difficult "prediction"
I can't imagine caring less about someone's opinion that I do about Bob McCown's.
Bad News Benning
Fallin for Dahlin?
The fact they aren't even going to make an effort pisses me off. Oh well now we can go pay some bum that's half as good 15 million a year just to field a below average rotation.
If you're too cheap to even make an offer to Price you might as well start selling our older players. I backed the Price trade thinking this is a sign the organization was committed to winning but losing Price along with the mlb ready pitching prospects we gave up is terrible. At least make a damn effort but no lets go back to a middling team in the AL East.
You can't go into the season with a bunch of 4's or 5's behind Stroman and expect to win the AL East even with this offense.
If you're too cheap to even make an offer to Price you might as well start selling our older players. I backed the Price trade thinking this is a sign the organization was committed to winning but losing Price along with the mlb ready pitching prospects we gave up is terrible. At least make a damn effort but no lets go back to a middling team in the AL East.
You can't go into the season with a bunch of 4's or 5's behind Stroman and expect to win the AL East even with this offense.
Eyedea
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Well if he's half as good getting paid half as much, then that sort of makes sense. And half of ~6 fWAR is still 3 fWAR, which is hardly a bum.
Who exactly do you think is a #4-#5 that will command 15MM AAV though?
Keith Law says Estrada is worth no more than million, said his stats are a one year shot and he will return to his league leading HR distribution. In his top 50 FA list for this year on ESPN.
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they're not going to make an effort because Bob McCown said so? Forgive me if I don't care what McCown says. He's guessing based on what he thinks Shapiro's plans would be.
Shapiro isn't exactly known for going out and signing pitchers to 30 million dollar contracts so it's a well based guess but who knows what's going to happen.
Shapiro isn't exactly known for going out and signing pitchers to 30 million dollar contracts so it's a well based guess but who knows what's going to happen.
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trellaine201
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Wait...so he will make the $16M if he accepts? If I was Coby I would take it.
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Bob McCown says Blue Jays won't make offer to Price....at 4:00...right before his show starts...a show that will require callers to phone in on a slow sports afternoon...
And people believe him.....
What a time to be alive.
And people believe him.....
What a time to be alive.
Muston Atthews
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I would take anything McCown has to say with a grain of salt. Two of his best friends left the organization (AA & Beeston) and he's been bitter ever since.
trellaine201
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wow if i was him id jump up and down. he didn't exactly have a good year either.
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