Shane Wright sent down to the AHL…

[OMG67]

Who’s taking panwar?

The team that trades their own OA. There will be teams looking to net a couple picks but still remain competitive. Other teams that trade they OA’s to other teams to net picks may want to trade a 3rd and 5th for a kid like Panwar.

 

[Otto]

Who’s taking panwar?

Nothing says he stays in the OHL

 

[dirty12]

Because they are short on draft picks and it is a way to marginally get better without significantly expending picks to do it. Trade Panwar for picks and then use those picks plus another pick or two and you upgrade to a better player.

Panwar is a good versatile fit for the Petes LW or C on 2nd or 3rd line & PK imo

 

[Truthking]

It's not a loophole, it's also a rule that allows for it.

I don’t think the spirit of the rule is to healthy scratch a kid 5 games in a row

 

[Otto]

I don’t think the spirit of the rule is to healthy scratch a kid 5 games in a row

"Spirit"? This isn't house league

 

[OMG67]

Panwar is a good versatile fit for the Petes LW or C on 2nd or 3rd line & PK imo

Looking for realistic ways to improve For the Petes. Short on picks and not a lot of depth youth that seems to have value enough to make it work For anything elite other than OA without trading Van Volsen.

 

[User13452]

Nothing says he stays in the OHL

Then the Petes wasted 3 picks for nothing can’t see them doing that

 

[Kristina Hazzard]

Then the Petes wasted 3 picks for nothing can’t see them doing that

Once he gets sent down he can't be called back up

 

[User13452]

Once he gets sent down he can't be called back up

He was talking about panwar not Wright

 

[dirty12]

Looking for realistic ways to improve For the Petes. Short on picks and not a lot of depth youth that seems to have value enough to make it work For anything elite other than OA without trading Van Volsen.

I’m not convinced the Petes entertain trading VanVolsen. Unless Wright is returned and chooses the Petes, I think the Petes will target RD such as; Keane, Roger, White, Maiilioux, and maybe Schmidt if available. The Petes have ‘04 born that Kingston, Guelph, Niagara, London could want more than picks.

 

[Otto]

Then the Petes wasted 3 picks for nothing can’t see them doing that

Some would say they already have

 

[dirty12]

Some would say they already have

Others would say the Petes are fortunate to be in a position to use a versatile OA for effective utility at C or LW, and very late 5th-‘23, 6th-‘24, 4th-‘25 for Panwar is cheap.

 

[LDN]

I’m not convinced the Petes entertain trading VanVolsen. Unless Wright is returned and chooses the Petes, I think the Petes will target RD such as; Keane, Roger, White, Maiilioux, and maybe Schmidt if available. The Petes have ‘04 born that Kingston, Guelph, Niagara, London could want more than picks.

Who is the 04?

 

[dirty12]

Who is the 04?

Dezoete, McCoy, Meelee, Smith.
They are probably value comparables for Rolofs, Sirrizotti, Michaud that were worth a 2nd or 3rd + at mid-season last year, but hold more value for teams that want players for a competitive team in 2023-24.

 

[Generalsupdates]

Dezoete, McCoy, Meelee, Smith.
They are probably value comparables for Rolofs, Sirrizotti, Michaud that were worth a 2nd or 3rd + at mid-season last year, but hold more value for teams that want players for a competitive team in 2023-24.

None of those guys are locks to be an OA in the OHL outside of McCoy. Which would mean the team would only be getting 1.5 years from them potentially with the first 0.5 year coming in a rebuild

 

[dirty12]

None of those guys are locks to be an OA in the OHL outside of McCoy. Which would mean the team would only be getting 1.5 years from them potentially with the first 0.5 year coming in a rebuild

I did say teams that would want players for a competitive team in 2023-24. That’s not necessarily all-in mindset going into the season, but expecting top 5 in conference or better and prepared to be all-in.
I think Guelph, Kingston, London are those teams and Niagara, Soo, & Sudbury want to believe they are those teams.

 

[OMG67]

I did say teams that would want players for a competitive team in 2023-24. That’s not necessarily all-in mindset going into the season, but expecting top 5 in conference or better and prepared to be all-in.
I think Guelph, Kingston, London are those teams and Niagara, Soo, & Sudbury want to believe they are those teams.

I can get behind this logic for sure. I know typically rebuilding teams want the 16 year old but if they are specifically pushing assets forward one season, I can see more value in trading for a 17 or 18 year old. In this case it would be Kingston making a hard push to host the Memorial Cup. If they can demonstrate returning players contributing to a competitive team, it helps their bid.

The challenge is in not doing that for every trade. You never know what fits and what doesn’t so there is still a sizeable pick quotient in the mix. Peterborough isn’t blessed with the picks portion so it may still be slightly difficult for them in some respects.

 

[Truthking]

"Spirit"? This isn't house league

I think you don’t know what spirit means in this context….. I’m referring to the reason the rule is put in place. To protect teenagers from being pushed too early, and to allow the chl to retain its high end players to not hurt their product.

 

[OMG67]

I think you don’t know what spirit means in this context….. I’m referring to the reason the rule is put in place. To protect teenagers from being pushed too early, and to allow the chl to retain its high end players to not hurt their product.

I think a set of criteria can be devised that addresses both. The current rule is not working for a small handful of CHL players every year. I think certain criteria to be eligible for early entry to the AHL could be:

1> Being either 19 or have served three seasons in the CHL
2> Being a top 10 NHL draft pick
3> An NHL team can only designate one “exceptional status” player at a time to be sent to the AHL.
4> If a player is granted “Exceptional Status” by their NHL club and is sent to the AHL, it counts as a contract year.

I think if those four criteria are met, it keeps the pool of players eligible small enough to not be overly used and with the contract year being a part of it, it ensures players aren’t sent there out of convenience.

To me, a player like Shane Wright or Byfield are the perfect examples of players that would benefit from playing in the AHL for a year prior to graduation to the NHL. Sending them to Junior may be good for the team that gets them back but it isn’t meaningful enough for the league to get one player back and it isn’t meaningful for the player development. When Imports can play AHL and CHL players can’t, there needs to be a path to having players play AHL under strict circumstance to ensure it isn’t abused.

 

[ottsabrefan]

I think a set of criteria can be devised that addresses both. The current rule is not working for a small handful of CHL players every year. I think certain criteria to be eligible for early entry to the AHL could be:

1> Being either 19 or have served three seasons in the CHL
2> Being a top 10 NHL draft pick
3> An NHL team can only designate one “exceptional status” player at a time to be sent to the AHL.
4> If a player is granted “Exceptional Status” by their NHL club and is sent to the AHL, it counts as a contract year.

I think if those four criteria are met, it keeps the pool of players eligible small enough to not be overly used and with the contract year being a part of it, it ensures players aren’t sent there out of convenience.

To me, a player like Shane Wright or Byfield are the perfect examples of players that would benefit from playing in the AHL for a year prior to graduation to the NHL. Sending them to Junior may be good for the team that gets them back but it isn’t meaningful enough for the league to get one player back and it isn’t meaningful for the player development. When Imports can play AHL and CHL players can’t, there needs to be a path to having players play AHL under strict circumstance to ensure it isn’t abused.

I don’t think Wright would meet criteria number 1 as he only has two years of OHL experience, with a golf season in between.

But, I do like the idea in general.

 

[Truthking]

I think a set of criteria can be devised that addresses both. The current rule is not working for a small handful of CHL players every year. I think certain criteria to be eligible for early entry to the AHL could be:

1> Being either 19 or have served three seasons in the CHL
2> Being a top 10 NHL draft pick
3> An NHL team can only designate one “exceptional status” player at a time to be sent to the AHL.
4> If a player is granted “Exceptional Status” by their NHL club and is sent to the AHL, it counts as a contract year.

I think if those four criteria are met, it keeps the pool of players eligible small enough to not be overly used and with the contract year being a part of it, it ensures players aren’t sent there out of convenience.

To me, a player like Shane Wright or Byfield are the perfect examples of players that would benefit from playing in the AHL for a year prior to graduation to the NHL. Sending them to Junior may be good for the team that gets them back but it isn’t meaningful enough for the league to get one player back and it isn’t meaningful for the player development. When Imports can play AHL and CHL players can’t, there needs to be a path to having players play AHL under strict circumstance to ensure it isn’t abused.

I agree with you, the ahl is a good place for most of those guys to be, 100% Wright would benefit from being there, much more so than sitting in the press box. It’s tough to balance that and what’s good for the CHL. All of those guys that played in the ahl during the covid shutdown seemed to benefit and excel.

 

[yessir29292]