Seider and Raymond for Draisaitl

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Octopus

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Draisaitl would look good in a Wings uniform. Holland will likely ask for a fair return that is useful NOW versus a ton of prospects and picks. Would you make this deal?

Although Seider is an assist machine and will be close to a point a game player at his peak, he is a liability defensively. Raymond is a good player but I don't think he will ever score more than 60-70 points per season. We get a 100 + point player and makes us a much better 5 on 5 along with the power play.
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ricky0034

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that Seider is a liability defensively comment is gonna be all this thread is about now, talk about derailing your own thread :laugh:

although we do already have a recent Draisaitl thread anyways
 

PelagicJoe

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1. We don't have the cap space for this trade.
2. Trading Seider would be bad for blue line business.
3. Just sign Drai as a UFA in a couple of years.
 

Steve Yzerlland

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Oilers lost to the Sharks last night with Draisaitl only one assist and McDavid held pointless and ZADINA with the GWG! Lmao just like everyone predicted. Holland is a moron Yzerman call him now before they fire him and we get nothing

They would need a center going back.
Supposedly Kasper is a center....
 
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SimonEdvinssonAtSix

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Larkin + Edvinsson + Seider + Raymond + 1st 24 + 1st 25 for magical EA NHL24 GM mode simulation.

Larkin is not a #1 C
Edvinsson is just an AHL player
Seider is a defensive liability
Raymond is just to old for progression anymore

Lets get these bums off the team so we can cry about the guys we bring in when our depth is crap yet again and we still win nothing!
 

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Although Seider is an assist machine and will be close to a point a game player at his peak, he is a liability defensively. Raymond is a good player but I don't think he will ever score more than 60-70 points per season. We get a 100 + point player and makes us a much better 5 on 5 along with the power play.
Thoughts?

Wait until you have to actually watch Draisaitl….

If The Oilers don’t have the puck, the guy looks like he is gliding around a park shiny rink. Edmonton sucks for a reason. Leon is a big part of it.
 
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Indrid Cold

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Wait until you have to actually watch Draisaitl….

If The Oilers don’t have the puck, the guy looks like he is gliding around a park shiny rink. Edmonton sucks for a reason. Leon is a big part of it.
This... Drai is big part of the lack of defense problem Edmonton has.
 

ricky0034

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Draisaitl will be traded for something like Chiarot + Fabbri + low 1st + prospect.

Chiarot probably has at least a slight negative value at this point and Fabbri with his health maybe at absolute best enough value to cancel that out even if you're being really optimistic and assuming that whoever is trading for him really believes in him

so it's basically a low 1st+prospect even if you're being generous about the rest of the deal

I feel like even as a rental at the deadline next year someone would offer more than that let alone this year with another year on his deal
 

lilidk

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Wait until you have to actually watch Draisaitl….

If The Oilers don’t have the puck, the guy looks like he is gliding around a park shiny rink. Edmonton sucks for a reason. Leon is a big part of it.
Didn't watch any oilers games, but team has plenty good players, no reason be so bad
 

lilidk

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Yzerman sucks , drafting Seider and Raymond, so now we have to get rid of both of them. I don't care how both of them will progress, just trade away them . I don't care how this trade effect locker room, just do it
 
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Lazlo Hollyfeld

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Just last night. He was the main culprit in the embarrassing SJ loss. Normal to see this from him…



Holy crap he's skating like it's warmups. And drifts to 3 or 4 different guys but isn't actually covering anyone. That's awful.

You don't have to be Tortorella to rightly staple his ass to the bench for a shift like that.
 
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Draisaitl would look good in a Wings uniform. Holland will likely ask for a fair return that is useful NOW versus a ton of prospects and picks. Would you make this deal?

Although Seider is an assist machine and will be close to a point a game player at his peak, he is a liability defensively. Raymond is a good player but I don't think he will ever score more than 60-70 points per season. We get a 100 + point player and makes us a much better 5 on 5 along with the power play.
Thoughts?

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