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  1. TominNC Registered User

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    Why are we still looking to bank picks? We already have banked assets to move. So what happens when we make all those picks, oh look, banked assets, lets trade the emerging NHL players like say, Chytil, to bank more picks. So were always in a building mode with inexperienced players and never have an experienced young core to compete. It's getting close to time to move some assets and take the next step. It doesn't have to be Eichel.
     
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  2. Hunter Gathers Lunch is served.

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    It's almost like some baseball pitchers have their own personal catcher. But just on a much higher and more important level.

    I feel like Fox and Lindgren are almost connected to each other on a brainwave level.
     
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    I totally agree with you. I would only trade Lindgren if he asks for too much money. As much as I like his game (especially his high level of competitiveness), it's important that he doesn't get overpayed, since there are more important cotracts coming up in the future and it is definitely harder to score goals in this league than defend them.
     
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    Fox be like:
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    Stupid? That's an overstatement. I disagree with the idea, but I don't see why it's "stupid" to think Miller and Jones should be the top 2 LD on the team. Is it that hard to disagree with somebody else's position without being condescending?
     
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    Comes from playing with one another prior. They are also best friends off the ice. Fox isn’t up for Norris without Lindgren as his partner. That’s a bold statement, and it’s the truth. You don’t deal that away to save 3-4 million on a 23yr old physical minute eating D for an unproven prospect with talent. There’s no Guarantee they will have the same chemistry as fox and Lindgren. You would essentially weaken your first pair with the reasoning your trying to make it better and save cap. It’s not a good idea
     
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  7. jay from jersey Registered User

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    Yea the comfort level between the two, and them being on the same wavelength has made it a real special thing to watch them grow this year. You can just see the confidence oozing out of Fox by having lindy on his left. Same thing goes for lindgren, he’s getting better and he makes certain plays that I think normally he wouldn’t if he wasn’t so in tune with his partner. I expect lindgren to sign a 4-6 year extension. After that deal when he’s around 29-30 I would deal him. The wear and tear on his body will likely have taken its toll by then and I would avoid another Staal/ girardi situation

    the rangers want a real mobile D that’s hard to play against and that covers a lot of ground. There’s going to be a real solid player on each side that won’t have room. If you go by Gorts and JD s mandate about being tougher this it what you’ll likely see at some point in the next year and a half 2 years

    Lindgren-Fox
    Miller-Trouba
    Robertson-Schneider

    Imo this is the group that would be hardest to score on while still being big, mobile and moving the puck
    The 2nd line up they could try would be
    Lindgren-Fox
    Jones-Trouba
    Robertson- lundkvist
    This line up pairs a smaller more offensive guy with a more stay at home type with out losing mobility. Each pair can defend adequately but you lose a lot of beef in this line up and not enough nasty IMO
    Finally I think they could go
    Lindgren-Fox
    Miller-Schneider
    Robertson-Trouba

    in this instance I think Schneider comes in and impresses and by mid season takes top 4 duties allowing trouba to slide to 3rd pair. This could be a solid line up and you can really interchange everyone on any par. It’s very versatile.
     
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    Ideally, I'd gladly trade them Kreider. Unfortunately he's an east coast boy and I'm pretty sure he has a NMC so good luck with that. Seattle is a pretty far cry from NY or Boston. On the plus side, Seattle is a new hockey city so he could probably get away with coasting half the season.
     
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    Trading Lindgren is a bad idea. This team shouldn't be trading away young, physical, top 4 defensemen absent a major overpay. He's a core/culture guy. Mike Sauer light. He's a guy whose value is higher to the Rangers than any acquiring team.
     
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    only scenario it should be even considered if his cap hit becomes too high to afford....as long as he's on a reasonable cap hit that we can afford then don't even discuss it until he is approaching 30 and you start thinking about his decline
     
  11. New York RKY Let's Go Rangers!

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    To be honest Fox hasn’t really looked the same since he stopped playing with Lindgren. The entire team hasn’t looked the same since Trouba went down.
     
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    I think one of Jones or Lundkvist will be traded for other needs. I think your last D group will eventually be the D they settle on. That's a group that can have skill, mobility, grit and size. I really can't wait to see Schneider.
     
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    Because Trouba is very good at what he does.

    we are also icing now 1 legit NHl dman. Fox. Thats it.

    miller, jones and reunanen are not exactly nhl ready. Hajek sucks, Smith is awful.
     
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    ALWAYS bank picks, which are ALWAYS useful currency.
    competition should have best players emerge
    don't discard the runner ups
    get something for them

    also, sell high not too early, but not too late, either
    we had a chance for Drury from CAR
    if Buch and small + for Drury + 1st
    but not anymore

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    Need to be VERY careful with that.
    These are higher level guys.
    Don't be so cavalier to deal
    Nils L esp is our next RD w/Schneider = Trouba replacement

    I'm not married to Jones but don't want him undersold, need to realize what we have there before we move, if we move, which is gonna boil down in short term to his upside vs return for Lindgren sold high ... unless bern can create a way to manipulate roster to keep as many of our faves as possible.

    Would be nice if we could do Jones +++ for Zegras, but that is not happening.
     
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    I don't think anyone is disregarding the value of those guys or looking to just move them for an average player. most are talking about taking advantage of our depth to return a valuable asset that fills another need.
     
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    Relax peeps!

    As I said Lindy is a fave of mine also.
    We do not have to move him now entering rfa yrs, and only real concern other than roster competition is that this guy does not turn into Girardi and break down in another 4 or so yrs, which is possible but not automatic since we are not doing the stupid Torts everybody is a goalie shot blocker.

    Somebody has to go, but today that does not have to be Lindy.
    bern is working on it...
     
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    My pt is you usually don't go wrong with:
    surplus player for a pick
    amass picks
    ample capital for trade to get who you really want need
    profit

    as opposed to trying to force best return for a specific player
    trading partner may not have best return for us for guy we are dealing
    but
    if we take picks,
    that = max flexibility
    just bank universal currency
     
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    I understand what you guys were saying about this guy
     
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    He's carrying Hajek around the ice. He can't take the same risks. And Hajek plays so much slower with the puck on his stick and his passes often put the recipient in vulnerable positions. He is greatly overmatched out there with the matchups that Fox gets and it's very obvious. So, yeah, Foxy doesn't look the same because he's wearing an anchor around his ankle.
     
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    And never compete for the Cup. The bern way.
     

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