Scoring paces (per 82 games played)

[Xspyrit]

What the scoring would have been like for each player if they played 82 games.


After 82 Games Played

Goals - Assists - Points

Erik Karlsson 20 54 74
Jason Spezza 25 47 72
Ales Hemsky 17 53 70
Kyle Turris 26 32 58
Clarke MacArthur 25 32 57
Bobby Ryan 27 29 56
Mika Zibanejad 19 20 39
Milan Michalek 17 22 39
Patrick Wiercioch 6 30 36
Mark Stone 17 18 35
Joe Corvo 10 23 33
Cory Conacher 5 22 27
Stephane Da Costa 20 7 27
Marc Methot 6 19 25
Zack Smith 13 9 22
Mike Hoffman 10 10 20
Chris Phillips 1 17 18
Colin Greening 6 12 18
Jared Cowen 7 11 18
Erik Condra 6 11 17
Eric Gryba 3 13 16
Cody Ceci 5 10 15
Chris Neil 9 6 15
Derek Grant 0 8 8
Jean-Gabriel Pageau 6 0 6
Mark Borowiecki 6 0 6

After 41 Games Played

Goals - Assists - Points

Erik Karlsson 20 54 74
Bobby Ryan 36 34 70
Jason Spezza 23 40 63
Kyle Turris 18 42 60
Clarke MacArthur 22 35 57
Patrick Wiercioch 9 32 41
Mika Zibanejad 21 19 40
Cody Ceci 9 27 36
Milan Michalek 12 22 34
Joe Corvo 11 23 34
Chris Phillips 2 23 25
Marc Methot 7 18 25
Zack Smith 16 8 24
Cory Conacher 8 15 23
Erik Condra 7 12 19
Colin Greening 6 10 16
Eric Gryba 4 12 16
Jared Cowen 6 7 13
Chris Neil 10 2 12
Jean-Gabriel Pageau 10 0 10
Derek Grant 0 8 8
Mark Borowiecki 6 0 6

* Very small sample sizes for Ceci and Borowiecki

After 20 Games Played

Goals - Assists - Points

Bobby Ryan 41 41 82
Erik Karlsson 29 53 82
Jason Spezza 39 39 78
Kyle Turris 17 57 74
Clarke MacArthur 13 39 52
Joe Corvo 10 41 51
Milan Michalek 12 37 49
Patrick Wiercioch 0 35 35
Mika Zibanejad 27 7 34
Chris Phillips 0 26 26
Erik Condra 6 17 23
Eric Gryba 7 14 21
Jared Cowen 12 4 16
Zack Smith 12 4 16
Marc Methot 8 8 16
Cory Conacher 8 8 16
Chris Neil 12 0 12
Colin Greening 0 12 12
Mark Borowiecki 12 0 12
Jean-Gabriel Pageau 10 0 10
Derek Grant 0 6 6

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[Xspyrit]

5-6 forwards scoring, others not providing enough secondary scoring

We need a 3rd line that would be good both-ways

I also wish MacLean would play Wiercioch or Corvo every game. Helps puck-movement and scoring from the blue-line.

 

[Benjamin]

Its amazing how Michalek isn't even playing good and is still on pace for 49 points.

 

[StefanW]

Its amazing how Michalek isn't even playing good and is still on pace for 49 points.

Yeah, he is greatly underrated on these boards partly due to his huge contract. Up until a few games ago when his scoring dried up he was actually on pace to get into the 25 goal range. He scores in bunches so it may still happen, providing his knee holds up.

 

[Xspyrit]

There's a lot of misconceptions on this board. The biggest is probably that a top-6 forward should be Alfredsson and the other is a good offensive D-man should be Erik Karlsson. Problem is that those players are/were Elite.

Michalek is a complimentary first line forward or a 2nd line forward. Could have been more if it weren't for those injuries. Once you understand that Michalek is not a possession/puck carrier and his game is all kind of things but this, you stop blindly hating him

 

[Sensinitis]

I think it's more the fact that Michalek isn't 25-30 goal 55-60 point blazing speedy winger anymore.

 

[Tampacuseforever]

Its amazing how Michalek isn't even playing good and is still on pace for 49 points.

It's called ice time and opportunity to put up points.

 

[UnHappyDude]

Zibanejad with 27 I like.

Its too bad the whole team is on pace for 0 playoff points

 

[Sens Mile]

Greening

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Yeah, he is greatly underrated on these boards partly due to his huge contract. Up until a few games ago when his scoring dried up he was actually on pace to get into the 25 goal range. He scores in bunches so it may still happen, providing his knee holds up.

Lol, no. When you're on a line with Spezza who's PPG you tend to get assists here and there.

Michalek is playing like a 3rd liner.

 

[spezza111*]

Yeah, he is greatly underrated on these boards partly due to his huge contract. Up until a few games ago when his scoring dried up he was actually on pace to get into the 25 goal range. He scores in bunches so it may still happen, providing his knee holds up.

LOL

Do you see how he gets his points???
2nd assists lucky goals

Lets not be silly and start thinking this guy is any good

 

[Xspyrit]

I think it's more the fact that Michalek isn't 25-30 goal 55-60 point blazing speedy winger anymore.

Yes but NHL players are pro athletes and they adjust to different situations. If you followed Michalek a bit before he came to Ottawa, you could see that his game changed and he was asked to be more of a goal scorer beause he was going to play with Spezza (check his goals vs assists ratio before and after Ottawa)

Sure he lost his blazing speed but he can still be a effective forward. Not saying he is playing well so far this season but I think it has more to do with the team in general, not a lot of players are really playing to potential outside the Turris line and Lehner. People would sing a very different tune if Milo had 9 goals and 3 assists instead... He could just be a sequence thing and he will go on a scoring tear soon, who knows? Maybe he reverts back to have more assists than goals? One thing for sure, Spezza-Michalek need an effective forward to play with and develop chemistry

One thing I have noticed is that East teams respect him a lot now, there's almost always somebody covering him closely. He has no time and space. Maybe another threat on that line would help immensely.

Greening

Biggest bust on the team so far IMO. Never been a huge fan, brings speed and good forecheck but something is lacking. Under average stick handling kills play too

LOL

Do you see how he gets his points???
2nd assists lucky goals

Lets not be silly and start thinking this guy is any good

Not even sure why I am wasting time quoting Michalek biggest hater, but going to use this post to say :

Everything he does bad is because he sucks and everything he does well is because of luck! Of course!

 

[Vesa Awesaka]

Spezza is shooting a lot more which imo has hurt milan scoring.

 

[MiscBrah]

If we could get our PP going EK, Spezza, Ryan and Turris's numbers would get an even bigger boost.

I always we knew we'd have a pretty potent offense, I just didn't think our defense would be this bad.

 

[ReginKarlssonLehner]

Spezza is shooting a lot more which imo has hurt milan scoring.

Spezza has been shooting a lot more cause Milan hasn't been scoring.

P.S. He actually hasn't. Spezza is on pace for 228 shots. In 2011-2012 where Milan got 35 goals... Spezza shot 232 times.

 

[DylanSensFan]

Spezza is shooting a lot more which imo has hurt milan scoring.

But this should be Conacher's cup of tea... honey badger is all about the deflection. Why has he not scored? Piss poor luck is all I have to think.

 

[Tampacuseforever]

But this should be Conacher's cup of tea... honey badger is all about the deflection. Why has he not scored? Piss poor luck is all I have to think.

Conacher hasn't spent that much time on Spezza's line although the last two games he has. To me he is starting to carry the puck and create plays the goals and points will come (if he's left there). Michalek to me is a shell of his former self, he's a handy guy to have around but he has had FULL opportunity and playing time this year and to me he just isn't capable of being a top line guy anymore. Hope I'm proven wrong but I haven't seen much to tell me otherwise.

 

[Sensinitis]

Sure he lost his blazing speed but he can still be a effective forward. Not saying he is playing well so far this season but I think it has more to do with the team in general, not a lot of players are really playing to potential outside the Turris line and Lehner.

He lost his blazing speed. That's his forte, his thing, his main asset, his bread and butter. What if Ovechkin lost his shot? What if Semin did? What if Patty Kane lost his stickhandling? (I know those are harder to lose than speed, but that's not the point)

It's his main thing, and he seems to have lost it.

I agree that he can still be an effective forward. But not on the first line(which is what he's paid to do at the moment, and the situation he's supposed to be put in), and I'm asking himself what he can do on the second line as well. (Maybe a bit of a stretch). But at this point I'd just prefer someone else to take his role. People come and go right? Maybe it's just time to let go of him, and the timing seems good with his contract expiring soon.

People would sing a very different tune if Milo had 9 goals and 3 assists instead...

He doesn't though, I don't like that argument. That's exactly the problem. It seems like he can't put up that type of production anymore.

He could just be a sequence thing and he will go on a scoring tear soon, who knows? Maybe he reverts back to have more assists than goals? One thing for sure, Spezza-Michalek need an effective forward to play with and develop chemistry

Maybe, maybe not. But he has 3 goals. So even if he gets more assists than goals, he won't even be hitting 20 goals at this pace. That's not enough, let's not kid ourselves. Especially not at that price tag!

 

[Lenny the Lynx]

Yeah, he is greatly underrated on these boards partly due to his huge contract. Up until a few games ago when his scoring dried up he was actually on pace to get into the 25 goal range. He scores in bunches so it may still happen, providing his knee holds up.

4.3M for a 28 year old former 30 goal scorer is far from a huge contract.

 

[Sensinitis]

He's being paid 6M in actual dollars this season.

 

[Lenny the Lynx]

He's being paid 6M in actual dollars this season.

Everyone knows that, but its irrelevant to everyone except for Milan Michalek and Eugene Melnyk.

People just want to use it to make him look bad but it doesn't make any sense. Cap hit is what matters, not how the contract is structured. A back loaded contract = cheaper for the team than front loaded, so you can't complain about it at the end.

 

[Vesa Awesaka]

Spezza has been shooting a lot more cause Milan hasn't been scoring.

P.S. He actually hasn't. Spezza is on pace for 228 shots. In 2011-2012 where Milan got 35 goals... Spezza shot 232 times.

just seems like it then i guess. spezza passing less maybe Milan isnt getting his shot like he use and imo he barely culd even get the puck when he was with ryan and spezza.

 

[Sensinitis]

Everyone knows that, but its irrelevant to everyone except for Milan Michalek and Eugene Melnyk.

People just want to use it to make him look bad but it doesn't make any sense. Cap hit is what matters, not how the contract is structured. A back loaded contract = cheaper for the team than front loaded, so you can't complain about it at the end.

It matters for Melnyk when he's paying someone 6M to score 3 goals in 20 games under the internal budget.

 

[DrakeAndJosh]

Imagine the kind of numbers Ryan could put up if he wasn't so fat.

 

[aragorn]

While Spezza has gotten much better defensively Karlsson has turned into the new give-away-machine. While he is still getting pts for Ottawa, he is also contributing pts for the other teams.