Do you guys remember if Craig Rivet ever played a big role with us? We traded a 2007 first (who turned into Max Pacioretty) for Rivet and 5th and flipped him a season and a half later for two second round picks.
Do you guys remember if Craig Rivet ever played a big role with us? We traded a 2007 first (who turned into Max Pacioretty) for Rivet and 5th and flipped him a season and a half later for two second round picks.
I believed in Strelow. I wanted to keep Kipper.
Do you guys remember if Craig Rivet ever played a big role with us? We traded a 2007 first (who turned into Max Pacioretty) for Rivet and 5th and flipped him a season and a half later for two second round picks.
Sharks win a Cup if they keep Brad Boyes IMHO.Trading one broken player for another isn’t really a bad trade. Havlat was useful for one season, Heatley was awful for the Wild the whole time he was there.
Trading Brad Boyes for Curtis Brown was a terrible trade. The Owen Nolan trade looks awful because we didn’t keep Boyes. The Ehrhoff trade was also absolutely terrible.
No, but the cap space was the value in the return, because we used that for Heatley.So you think that a good return for Ehrhoff was a 2nd round pick 3 drafts later?
Sure, but those are 2 separate transactions. On its own, it's still not a good return for Ehrhoff. We're talking about best and worst individual trades as opposed to a holistic view of team building per season.No, but the cap space was the value in the return, because we used that for Heatley.
Yea i know, but the cap space was still part of the return regardless, even if what they did with it is separate.Sure, but those are 2 separate transactions. On its own, it's still not a good return for Ehrhoff. We're talking about best and worst individual trades as opposed to a holistic view of team building per season.
We're all well versed in your opinions about Thornton, but your complaint is about Thornton and not the trade. The trade for Thornton was good. Beyond his individual shortcomings, which at times, were frustrating, the fact that the Sharks never won a cup in his entire tenure does not fall entirely upon his shoulders.If there's one trade I could undo, it'd be the Thornton trade. Sharks hitched their ride to a lame horse. It was a handicap they couldn't overcome.
That’s the most ridiculous take I have ever heard. I’d trade for a hall of fame player any day of the week. It’s not his fault they couldn’t build a great team around him.If there's one trade I could undo, it'd be the Thornton trade. Sharks hitched their ride to a lame horse. It was a handicap they couldn't overcome.
I see your points, but ultimately, the Sharks decided that Thornton could be their #1 guy. That was the fatal mistake, and the #1 reason the Sharks haven't yet won a cup.We're all well versed in your opinions about Thornton, but your complaint is about Thornton and not the trade. The trade for Thornton was good. Beyond his individual shortcomings, which at times, were frustrating, the fact that the Sharks never won a cup in his entire tenure does not fall entirely upon his shoulders.
The Kane trade played a part in this as well which turned out pretty damn bad because of this eventuality. If we had let Kane walk like we should have, the Karlsson trade would've sent a 2019 1st round pick instead of the 2020 1st round pick and then that Karlsson trade looks much better than what it does now.I didn't see the article... the Karlsson one was up there for me.
Not only would we have had our top two Centres in Stutzle and Norris, but we could potentially have avoided best part of a decade's rebuild...
Hypotheticals, I admit. But them be the 'what ifs...'
Imagine prime Suter and Parise on the Sharks, on cheap deals. But then again, butterfly effect from not drafting Michalek and Bernier might mean no Thornton trade.DW's trade ups in the draft often had a lot of regret, specially because of the players he passed on to grab his guy. Trading up for Steve Bernier, when guys like Parise, Getzlaf and Burns went right after. Trading up for Devin Setoguchi instead of Anze Kopitar. Even a few that he traded up for that didn't have impact players right after like Lukas Kaspar or Mirco Muller were still wasted trade ups. I don't blame him too much for giving away endless first rounders for rentals when we were trying to compete, cause he was trying to do what he could to get us a Cup.
Ehrhoff trade is even worse due to the fact they traded him to a conference rival who took out the Sharks in 2011. Should have just traded him to the Islanders or Blue Jackets for a solid draft pickI will always say the Ehrhoff trade was the worst. God awful return for a young Dman who was putting up points.
Everyone loved Nolan even though he was a D. Hes a bit nicer now. But they did get boyds, who unfortunately only played a game went on to be a consistent 30 goals scorer. we did get mcaughly 20 goal scores and a 1st. the value was there.Worst was the owen nolan trade.
Boyes had two 30 goal seasons but it was still better than what we got for him. Renting Curtis Brown to provide next to nothing in terms of depth. That was always a terrible trade. McCauley could've been better but he wasn't and shouldn't have been the piece that mattered in that return.Everyone loved Nolan even though he was a D. Hes a bit nicer now. But they did get boyds, who unfortunately only played a game went on to be a consistent 30 goals scorer. we did get mcaughly 20 goal scores and a 1st. the value was there.
Ehrhoff trade is even worse due to the fact they traded him to a conference rival who took out the Sharks in 2011. Should have just traded him to the Islanders or Blue Jackets for a solid draft pick