Salary Cap: Salary Cap - season 2023-24

[Henkka]

Cap is rumoured to be 83.5M.

Some estimations for next year. Estimations taken from evolving-hockey contract estimations. Picked the term with my own gut feeling.

So extending these guys:

- Larkin, UFA - 8 years, 9.0M (until 34-year old)
- Bertuzzi, UFA - 4 years, 6.5M (until 32-year old)
- Sundqvist, UFA - 3 years, 2.3M (until 32-year old)
- Veleno, RFA - 3 years, 1.1M

Other forward contracts are current ones.

- Määttä, UFA - 3 years, 3.25M (until 31-year old)
- Walman, RFA - 3 years, 1.25M
- Pysyk, UFA - 2 years 850k (until 32-year old)

Goalie could be anybody, but I just used Cossa and his caphit on this scenario. Maybe we'll see 1M Olkinuora, or 1M Hellberg there. Or maybe Yzerman will use more money to get somebody else for backup. But on this scenario we have a "900k backup" using that Cossa caphit.

That would leave 13.4M in capspace. Versus 83.5M cap.

Maybe +1M more, if cap is rumoured to rise +2M instead of +1M.

But does not change the big picture.

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[Henkka]

OUT:

- F Suter
- W Erne
- W Smith
- F (Czarnik)

- LD Oesterle
- RD Lindström

- G Nedeljkovic

Hopefully some of then go out in some trades.

 

[Hen Kolland]

Larkin will sign for more
Bertuzzi will sign for more
Cossa will not be ready for the NHL
I don’t see signing both Walman and Maatta, let alone those two and Pysyk.

 

[13to40]

Larkin will sign for more

Bertuzzi will sign for more
Cossa will not be ready for the NHL
I don’t see signing both Walman and Maatta, let alone those two and Pysyk.

This pretty much sums up what I was going to say.

Which brings up the famous debate: are Larkin and Bert worth the high AAV with that term?

The argument swings both ways, but in a perfect world, the two team leaders take discounts and set up a culture for all the next future contracts to come.

I could also see Ned getting over the mental hurdle that he’s having a hard time with and resume to be one heck of a good goalie too. Maybe resign him to a 1 year show me what you got contract; he seems like the type of guy who’s willing to bet on himself…

 

[Ricelund]

They won't re-sign Pysyk, especially not to a two-year deal. His career might be over.

Bertuzzi will get more than four years.

 

[Henkka]

They won't re-sign Pysyk, especially not to a two-year deal. His career might be over.

Bertuzzi will get more than four years.

So they could sign someone else.

It's not important on this discussion who are they gonna sign. Caphits are the thing.

Some other guy for 850k. There you go.

 

[stillwater]

So they Some other guy for 850k. There you go.

So they could sign someone else.

It's not important on this discussion who are they gonna sign. Caphits are the thing.

Some other guy for 850k. There you go.

Okay, I get it.

Since the players who are signing are "not important" ... this become a simple exercise in grade 2 mathematics.

Interesting. I'll give it a try ...

9.5
6.0
1.8
1.6
3
1.5
.85

Again, leaving 13.4 in CAP space. Wow!

 

[SantosHalper]

Kubalik - Larkin - Raymond
Bertuzzi - Rasmussen - Perron
Vrana - Copp - Berggren
Veleno - Glendening - Sundqvist
Fabbri, Zadina

Edvinsson - Seider
Chiarot - Hronek
Määttä - Walman
Lindström

Husso
UFA

Larkin 8 x 9
Bertuzzi 4 x 6,5
Sundqvist 2 x 2,5
Glendening 1 x 2
Määttä 3 x 3
Walman 2 x 1,5
UFA goalies:
-Korpisalo 2 x 1,8
-Stolarz 2 x 2
-Copley 1 x 0,950
-Hellberg 1 x 0,950

 

[JediOrderPizza]

Berts gone, we gonna need that money to chase Pasta.

 

[Snuggs]

It's not that bad and well articulated to get the point across that we have cap to sign our guys plus more.

Only thing I'd suggest is Bertuzzi prolly isn't paid that by Yzerman and Larkin could get a touch more but not enough to mess with the cap ( between 500k-1million more per year, imo.).

I think Yzerman brings in someone if Bertuzzi leaves and not neccessarily a 6 million dollar plus player.

The real thing that I hope actually happens that you mentioned are guys like this

- F Suter
- W Erne
- W Smith
- F (Czarnik)

- LD Oesterle
- RD Lindström

- G Nedeljkovic

Get traded/ moved for something, anything, 7th rounders at this point looks ok for more than a few of these guys. Like, looking at this scenerio I'm looking to move Bertuzzi at the TDL for whatever, see if Pasternak hits UFA and look to maybe sell out 20 million between him and Larkin. You'd still have 5 million plus in cap space with all these other assumed signings.

Red Wings can do and go a lot of directions.

 

[Henkka]

What I've learned, Red Wings have 3.000028M in cap space currently.

How this is pro-rated towards the trade deadline?

First of all, there are still those Seider and Raymond ELC bonuses on the play.

Seider will get 850k for sure, Raymond 850k too. Raymond also has a possibility for extra 2.0M bonuses, but those are basicly impossible to achieve.

So they will get, for 99% sure 1.7M together as total bonuses.

Yzerman will definitely want these to fit at this year's cap, out from next year's cap.

But these pro-rated caphits?

After you reduce that added 1.7M bonus-space from the total cap space, that will leave 1.300028M for the deadline space.

This would mean, that at the deadline, you can still fit a contract valued 5.94M under our cap space.

It's really funny, I went to check this situation, if we could fit Pavel Buchnevich from the Blues to our cap. And his caphit is 5.8M, just under the limit to fit in. And we would avoid all bonus slides for next year.

Traded Berggren + D prospect + pick for him.

 

[14ari13]

What I've learned, Red Wings have 3.000028M in cap space currently.

How this is pro-rated towards the trade deadline?

First of all, there are still those Seider and Raymond ELC bonuses on the play.

Seider will get 850k for sure, Raymond 850k too. Raymond also has a possibility for extra 2.0M bonuses, but those are basicly impossible to achieve.

So they will get, for 99% sure 1.7M together as total bonuses.

Yzerman will definitely want these to fit at this year's cap, out from next year's cap.

But these pro-rated caphits?

After you reduce that added 1.7M bonus-space from the total cap space, that will leave 1.300028M for the deadline space.

This would mean, that at the deadline, you can still fit a contract valued 5.94M under our cap space.

It's really funny, I went to check this situation, if we could fit Pavel Buchnevich from the Blues to our cap. And his caphit is 5.8M, just under the limit to fit in. And we would avoid all bonus slides for next year.

Traded Berggren + D prospect + pick for him.

Why do you think the blues want to trade him?

 

[Henkka]

Why do you think the blues want to trade him?

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