ummerr
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Pure speculation, but what do you think the salary cap will be in 2015? 2020?
That's what these teams were banking on when they signed them.I'm just wondering...as if it goes up significantly, a lot of these long terms signings won't be as huge cap hits (relatively) if the cap is say $80 million in 2015-2020. Ie, Ovechkin/Lecavalier.
That's what these teams were banking on when they signed them.
I think it's going to be interesting to see if a guy like Pronger gets traded to one of the poorer teams in the league when he hits 40 and has that massive cap hit, but low actual salary. His cap hit will be $5 million, but his salary will be $525k. He then retires before ever playing a single game, but his cap hit remains because he's an overager.
Everyone complains that teams at the top are getting around the cap with these deals, but in a few years I suspect these contracts will also be abused by the poorer teams to reach the salary cap floor while spending potentially tens of millions less than the floor.
I think this whole concept is overblown. If the salary cap/floor increases to a point where there are really that many teams having challenges meeting the floor we're more likely to see a change to those limits in the CBA imo.
Yeah. The floor has been 16M below the ceiling.
In 05-06, the cap was 39M and the floor was 23M, or 58.9% of the ceiling.
This year, the cap is 59.4M and the floor is 43.4M, or 73.1% of the ceiling.
if cap floor clubs have problems, the payroll range will be widened. Could happen as soon as the next CBA.
Pure speculation, but what do you think the salary cap will be in 2015? 2020?
Why does the NHLPA has a vested interest in keeping the cap floor as high as possible?
Lower than today.
Yes, I'm serious.
Because it forces franchises to pay more money out to the players.
I'll use an extreme to further illustrate my point. Let's say the floor was $10 million instead of ~$40 million, and 5 of the poorer teams (in an effort to lose as little as possible) only spent up to the established $10 million floor. That's a total of $150 million not being spent on the players that the NHLPA represents. Because the floor is lower and some teams will cut back on spending, it puts downward pressure on salaries across the rest of the league. The NHLPA is best served by having both a high cap, and a high floor. If they could have a $50 million floor, I'm sure they'd be thrilled.
If the owners went to the NHLPA during the next CBA negotiations and told them that they wanted to reduce the floor by $5 million per team, I don't think you'd find the NHLPA in a position of agreeing with the change without getting something of value in return.
I'm not saying that it's not going to happen and I'm certainly not saying that it shouldn't happen. I just don't expect the NHLPA to lay down and take it without a fight.
Why would that happen?
Cap will be gone
Any chances with the next CBA, that the "hard" cap is dispensed with, and a Luxury cap/tax in it's place?
We need something resembling the NBA's Bird rights so that teams can keep their drafted stars. That's what I want more than anything.
At $200 a barrel of oil, it's not going to matter much what the BoG or NHLPA "wants".
I also expect meaningful contraction in the number of teams.
We need something resembling the NBA's Bird rights so that teams can keep their drafted stars. That's what I want more than anything.