Salary Cap: Salary Cap 2015: Olli Maatta to start season in AHL due to severe case of Gullibility

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IcedCapp

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All figures are cap numbers, not salaries.

Official 2015-16 salary ceiling: ........71,400,000
Projected 2015-16 cap spending: ....71,392,083
Cap space before using LTIR: .................7,917


PITTSBURGH PENGUINS
Forward.................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
2017-18

Evgeni Malkin|
C​
|
28​
|
9,500,000​
|
9,500,000​
|
9,500,000​

Sidney Crosby|
C​
|
27​
|
8,700,000​
|
8,700,000​
|
8,700,000​

Phil Kessel|
RW​
|
27​
|
6,800,000​
|
6,800,000​
|
6,800,000​

Patric Hornqvist|
RW​
|
28​
|
4,250,000​
|
4,250,000​
|
4,250,000​

Chris Kunitz|
LW​
|
35​
|
3,850,000​
|
3,850,000​
|
UFA

David Perron|
LW​
|
26​
|
3,812,500​
|
UFA

Nick Bonino|
C​
|
27​
|
1,900,000​
|
1,900,000​
|
UFA

Sergei Plotnikov|
LW​
|
25​
|
925,000​
|
RFA

Beau Bennett|
RW​
|
23​
|
800,000​
|
RFA

Matt Cullen|
C​
|
38​
|
800,000​
|
UFA

Daniel Sprong|
RW​
|
18​
|
692,500​
|
692,500​
|
692,500​

Bobby Farnham|
LW​
|
26​
|
575,000​
|
UFA
Defense.................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
.2017-18

Kris Letang|
D​
|
28​
|
7,250,000​
|
7,250,000​
|
7,250,000​

Rob Scuderi|
D​
|
36​
|
3,375,000​
|
3,375,000​
|
UFA

Ian Cole|
D​
|
26​
|
2,100,000​
|
2,100,000​
|
2,100,000​

Ben Lovejoy|
D​
|
31​
|
1,100,000​
|
UFA

Olli Maatta|
D​
|
20​
|
894,167​
|
RFA

Brian Dumoulin|
D​
|
23​
|
800,000​
|
800,000​
|
RFA

Adam Clendening|
D​
|
22​
|
761,250​
|
RFA

Tim Erixon|
D​
|
24​
|
600,000​
|
RFA
Goalie............,.......
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
.2017-18

Marc-Andre Fleury|
G​
|
30​
|
5,750,000​
|
5,750,000​
|
5,750,000​

Jeff Zatkoff|
G​
|
28​
|
600,000​
|
UFA
Injured reserve.......
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
.2017-18

Pascal Dupuis|
RW​
|
36​
|
3,750,000​
|
3,750,000​
|
UFA

Eric Fehr|
C​
|
29​
|
2,000,000​
|
2,000,000​
|
2,000,000​

Tom Kuhnhackl|
LW​
|
23​
|
575,000​
|
RFA



WILKES-BARRE/SCRANTON PENGUINS
Forward...............
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
2017-18

Tyler Biggs|
RW​
|
22​
|
894,167​
|
RFA

Oskar Sundqvist|
C​
|
21​
|
700,833​
|
708,333​
|
RFA

Dominik Simon|
C​
|
20​
|
692,500​
|
692,500​
|
692,500​
|
RFA

Conor Sheary|
LW​
|
23​
|
667,500​
|
667,500​
|
RFA

Josh Archibald|
RW​
|
22​
|
659,167​
|
659,167​
|
RFA

Scott Wilson|
LW​
|
23​
|
655,000​
|
RFA

Bryan Rust|
RW​
|
23​
|
652,500​
|
RFA

Matia Marcantuoni|
C​
|
21​
|
608,333​
|
608,333​
|
RFA

Jean-Sebastien Dea|
C​
|
21​
|
585,000​
|
585,000​
|
RFA

Dominik Uher|
C​
|
22​
|
575,000​
|
RFA

Kevin Porter|
C​
|
29​
|
575,000​
|
UFA

Kael Mouillierat|
LW​
|
27​
|
575,000​
|
UFA
Defense...............
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
2017-18

Derrick Pouliot|
D​
|
21​
|
863,333​
|
863,333​
|
RFA

Harrison Ruopp|
D​
|
22​
|
650,833​
|
RFA

Niclas Andersen|
D​
|
27​
|
625,000​
|
UFA

David Warsofsky|
D​
|
25​
|
600,000​
|
UFA

Reid McNeill|
D​
|
23​
|
575,000​
|
575,000​
|
RFA

Will O'Neill|
D​
|
27​
|
575,000​
|
UFA

Steve Oleksy|
D​
|
29​
|
575,000​
|
UFA
Goalie..................
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
2017-18

Matt Murray|
G​
|
21​
|
620,000​
|
620,000​
|
RFA

Tristan Jarry|
G​
|
20​
|
589,167​
|
589,167​
|
589,167​



WHEELING NAILERS
Forward...............
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
2015-16
|
2016-17
|
2017-18

Anton Zlobin|
LW​
|
22​
|
608,333​
|
RFA



SIGNED PROSPECTS
Player
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
Current Team
|
Contract

Daniel Sprong|
F​
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18​
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Charlottetown (QMJHL)​
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3 years, $692,500 per​



UNSIGNED PROSPECTS
Player​
|
Pos.
|
Age
|
Current Team (League)

Anthony Angello|
F​
|
19​
|Cornell (ECAC)

Dane Birks|
D​
|
19​
|Michigan Tech (WCHA)

Teddy Blueger|
F​
|
20​
|Minnesota State (WCHA)

Blaine Byron|
F​
|
20​
|Maine (HEA)

Jake Guentzel|
F​
|
20​
|Nebraska-Omaha (NCHC)

Troy Josephs|
F​
|
21​
|Clarkson (ECAC)

Sam Lafferty|
F​
|
20​
|Brown (ECAC)

Jaden Lindo|
F​
|
19​
|Owen Sound (OHL)

Sean Maguire|
G​
|
22​
|Boston University (HEA)

Nikita Pavlychev|
F​
|
18​
|Des Moines (USHL)

Alexander Pechurskiy|
G​
|
25​
|Khabarovsk (KHL)

Ryan Segalla|
D​
|
20​
|Connecticut (HEA)

Jeff Taylor|
D​
|
21​
|Union (ECAC)

Frederik Tiffels|
F​
|
20​
|Western Michigan (NCHC)
 
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ILikeTurtles

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Would like to see them claim Panik, but given they are tight against the cap I don't see it as an option.
 

WheresRamziAbid

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Would like to see them claim Panik, but given they are tight against the cap I don't see it as an option.

With Dupuis on LTIR it could happen short term, the issue would be finding space once Dupuis and Fehr are healthy.

Personally I wouldn't mind Panik, instead of Farnham. All else equal I might just go with Sundqvist instead.
 

ILikeTurtles

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With Dupuis on LTIR it could happen short term, the issue would be finding space once Dupuis and Fehr are healthy.

Personally I wouldn't mind Panik, instead of Farnham. All else equal I might just go with Sundqvist instead.

Sundqvist falls more into the Murray category to me. Whereas playing big minutes in the AHL seems like a better idea than limited minutes in the NHL. Agreed with I'd rather see Panik over Farnham on the fourth with Cullen and Bennett. No need to ponder because the chances of that are essentially zero.
 

Speaking Moistly

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Would like to see them claim Panik, but given they are tight against the cap I don't see it as an option.

They have a month of Dupuis on LTIR and Panik could be waived after or they could ****ing trade Kunitz. They'd have to make decisions after LTIR ends and it could be a problem with the number of contracts.

If they want him. I suppose they could claim him and still play Sundqvist ahead of him. More injury insurance...
 

Riptide

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I give Johnston 12 games before the noose gets REALLY tight. He may be a 'professional coach' but he doesn't look like an NHL coach to me. An assistant, yes. But not a head man. And what IC said is significant and undervalued...a coach MUST have the pulse of the room.

Plus, I still think there is disconnect between how Rutherford wants this team to play and how Johnston sees things.

I don't see how he (Johnston) makes it to Christmas.

While true, he doesn't have to hang out in the room like Bylsma did to have the pulse of the room.

To be fired in the first 12 games MJ would have to go 0-12, out Crosby, get Malkin deported, and knock up every woman in Ruterfords family.

As long as this team is on track for a playoff spot Johnston will get the benefit of the doubt. Which the roster talent alone should provide. Though another first rd exit, especially if they limp in the playoffs might get him canned.

In 12 games (that's what - 3-4 weeks?)? That would be an impressive feat and an amazing downfall.

A lot of coaches are on the hot seat this year, mostly veteran coaches(MJ wasn't mentioned as a hot seat candidate). However, I certainly could see them letting his contract expire after the year ends and maybe going after one of those vet coaches.

He signed a 3 yr deal, and thus has this season and next season left on it.
 

CanadianPensFan1

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While true, he doesn't have to hang out in the room like Bylsma did to have the pulse of the room.



In 12 games (that's what - 3-4 weeks?)? That would be an impressive feat and an amazing downfall.



He signed a 3 yr deal, and thus has this season and next season left on it.


I think it should be a mix of both.

I dont necessarily think that the coach needs to hang out and pal around in the dressing room. But I do think the coach should have periodic meetings (twice a season, say) with each player, one on one, to get their individual pulse.

Then, use the assistants to gauge the overall pulse of the room.
 

Old Guy

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In 12 games (that's what - 3-4 weeks?)? That would be an impressive feat and an amazing downfall.

Peter Laviolette made it 3 games in Philly a couple years ago. Now THAT was amazing.
 

Riptide

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I think it should be a mix of both.

I dont necessarily think that the coach needs to hang out and pal around in the dressing room. But I do think the coach should have periodic meetings (twice a season, say) with each player, one on one, to get their individual pulse.

Then, use the assistants to gauge the overall pulse of the room.

We have absolutely no clue how exactly MJ does things in this regard (or other coaches for that matter). I'm certain that MJ (and other coaches) have multiple 1-1's with players over the course of the season.

My only point was that one doesn't have to live in the dressing room to have the pulse of the room. There's a lot of different ways one can go about it - to the point that while that comment of his could really be taken and used in many different ways, I don't think it's a big deal.
 

CanadianPensFan1

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We have absolutely no clue how exactly MJ does things in this regard (or other coaches for that matter). I'm certain that MJ (and other coaches) have multiple 1-1's with players over the course of the season.

My only point was that one doesn't have to live in the dressing room to have the pulse of the room. There's a lot of different ways one can go about it - to the point that while that comment of his could really be taken and used in many different ways, I don't think it's a big deal.


Well, sure. 95% of the crap on these boards is speculation. This isn't really any different.

I was just giving an overall opinion. Like you said ... the comment can be taken, and has been taken, many different ways. Some people like the DB style where he is disco-ing with the guys in the dressing room. Some people like the possibility of HCMJ not ever going in the room.

Im just saying, in my eyes, I think the best option is a mix of both.
 

systemsgo

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Yeah well, DB's buddying up with the players makes me think he placed friendships/relationships over skill/player development. I have no idea what MJ's reason/excuse is.
 

Shady Machine

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So we complain that a coach is too buddy buddy with certain players and now we complain that the coach isn't hanging out in the locker room?

Give it a rest. Not every statement about the coach needs to be blown out of proportion.

My point with this isn't to defend MJ as a coach. I just don't think it's worth complaining about his presence in the locker room (especially in light of all the complaints about Bylsma being too player friendly).
 
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sf expat71

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So we complain that a coach is too buddy buddy with certain players and now we complain that the coach isn't hanging out in the locker room?

Give it a rest. Not every statement about the coach needs to be blown out of proportion.

My point with this isn't to defend MJ as a coach. I just don't think it's worth complaining about his presence in the locker room (especially in light of all the complaints about Bylsma being too player friendly).

I dunno, I think one of the biggest problems we had was that DB was picking and choosing just certain players to be friendly with. Lest we forget... Gladams. And it led to preferential treatment of those guys. I don't mind a players' coach if lineup decisions are still meritocratic.
 

UnderratedBrooks44

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We have absolutely no clue how exactly MJ does things in this regard (or other coaches for that matter).

Not true. Remember the footage of Bylsma & Co. sitting in a board room giving A/B/C/D/F grades to each player after every game? Then with that information they would.........I don't know get up and go get nachos or something.

I had to bring that up just because I couldn't believe how ludicrous it was:

"I give Matt Cooke a B- for last night's game"

"Well I gave him a C+"

WTF does that even mean and what does it accomplish? it's something a squirt coach would do
 

Riptide

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Not true. Remember the footage of Bylsma & Co. sitting in a board room giving A/B/C/D/F grades to each player after every game? Then with that information they would.........I don't know get up and go get nachos or something.

I had to bring that up just because I couldn't believe how ludicrous it was:

"I give Matt Cooke a B- for last night's game"

"Well I gave him a C+"

WTF does that even mean and what does it accomplish? it's something a squirt coach would do

Why? The coach and GM should be addressing and recording their thoughts on a players game on a regular basis. Something like that does two things. A, it provides the org with a written record of how management views the players game, and B with a written indication, gives them more insight to evaluate a player.

Hey look at this. Hornqvist has been (in our opinion) trending downwards in each game since he hurt his foot on Nov 5th. OR, look, he hurt his foot on Oct 20th, but still played pretty well until Nov 10th. I'm sure these are all smart individuals, and quite likely their memory is better than mine - but something like that means they're looking at documentation vs going off of their (or someone else's) memory. It's also something concrete they can take to the player (if needed) should they want to discuss something.

And again, you're using 1 coaches example. What does Babcock do? Or AV or Quenville? For all we know they all do something similar, as could MJ.
 

WheresRamziAbid

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why? The coach and gm should be addressing and recording their thoughts on a players game on a regular basis. Something like that does two things. A, it provides the org with a written record of how management views the players game, and b with a written indication, gives them more insight to evaluate a player.

Hey look at this. Hornqvist has been (in our opinion) trending downwards in each game since he hurt his foot on nov 5th. Or, look, he hurt his foot on oct 20th, but still played pretty well until nov 10th. I'm sure these are all smart individuals, and quite likely their memory is better than mine - but something like that means they're looking at documentation vs going off of their (or someone else's) memory. It's also something concrete they can take to the player (if needed) should they want to discuss something.

And again, you're using 1 coaches example. What does babcock do? Or av or quenville? For all we know they all do something similar, as could mj.

this
 

Jacob

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I see both sides.

On the one hand these guys should be able to keep player evaluation in their heads because it's basically their job. I mean, most of us do it. I'm sure most of us can recall when guys looked good and when they didn't, and what might have happened to cause the down turn (an injury, a change in the line-up, whatever).

But getting a consensus and writing it down probably eliminates any type of human error in recollecting stuff.

Whether it's a good/fair/poor, a 1-10, or A,B,C thing, I don't think that matters much.
 
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