Sabres Expansion Draft Protection Discussion (Skinner waives NMC for Draft)

[Nikolajs Sillers]

I hope Girgensons is picked up by Seattle.

 

[Fjordy]

I hope Girgensons is picked up by Seattle.

Damn, I was hoping it would be Okposo or Eakin

 

[RecycledEichel]

Trade: Ristolainen, Reinhart and Eichel

Cover: Thompson, Mittelstadt, Asplund, Bjork, Olofsson, Girgensons, Skinner, Borgen, Dahlin, Jokiharju, Ullmark

Leaving: Eakin, Oglevie, Okposo, Smith, Caggiula, Dea, Rieder, Sheahan, Fogarty, Miller, McCabe, Pilut, Irwin, Davidson, Hutton and Tokarski

We are protecting Skinner? Don't we want out of that contract?

 

[Fjordy]

We are protecting Skinner? Don't we want out of that contract?

We have a duty to protect him because of his damn NMC.

 

[threeVo]

Trade Olofsson and Risotlainen.

Protection:
Eichel, Reinhart, Skinner(If no waive), Mitts, Thompson, Bjork, Asplund (Girgensons)
Dahlin, Joki, Borgen
Ullmark if you can get him signed

 

[Jim Bob]

Buffalo Sabres protected list: Who's staying and who could be picked in the Seattle Kraken expansion draft?

If that is the path the Sabres go down, it would seem like Seattle would be picking between Asplund, Girgensons, Borgen, and Miller.

That's not that bad.

 

[Zman5778]

Buffalo Sabres protected list: Who's staying and who could be picked in the Seattle Kraken expansion draft?

If that is the path the Sabres go down, it would seem like Seattle would be picking between Asplund, Girgensons, Borgen, and Miller.

That's not that bad.

I think Eakin might also be a legit option for Seattle. Only under contract for one more year. Good at the dot. Good PKer, plays with a ton of energy and speed. I think it's entirely possible that Seattle thinks that getting him away from Buffalo helps him return to "normal". Just look at what getting away from here did for Montour, Hall and Staal (at least post-season Staal).

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Trade Olofsson and Risotlainen.

Protection:
Eichel, Reinhart, Skinner(If no waive), Mitts, Thompson, Bjork, Asplund (Girgensons)
Dahlin, Joki, Borgen
Ullmark if you can get him signed

Yeah, trade the one guy who can score to protect very average Bjork because Boston demanded to throw him in for Lazar. Makes sense.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

I think Eakin might also be a legit option for Seattle. Only under contract for one more year. Good at the dot. Good PKer, plays with a ton of energy and speed. I think it's entirely possible that Seattle thinks that getting him away from Buffalo helps him return to "normal". Just look at what getting away from here did for Montour, Hall and Staal (at least post-season Staal).

At $2.2 M he has ZERO value. Absolutely zero. No chance he's taken unless Buffalo gives them a pick to get it done. I sure wouldn't give up Boston second to get it done. Not sure I'd give up third either.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

Buffalo Sabres protected list: Who's staying and who could be picked in the Seattle Kraken expansion draft?

If that is the path the Sabres go down, it would seem like Seattle would be picking between Asplund, Girgensons, Borgen, and Miller.

That's not that bad.

I'd like to hold onto Asplund if possible. Borgen too. Fine with losing Girgs/Miller.

 

[sabremike]

I think Eakin might also be a legit option for Seattle. Only under contract for one more year. Good at the dot. Good PKer, plays with a ton of energy and speed. I think it's entirely possible that Seattle thinks that getting him away from Buffalo helps him return to "normal". Just look at what getting away from here did for Montour, Hall and Staal (at least post-season Staal).

Do you really think Ron Francis is as completely stupid as Ralph and Pegula's errand boy? He was the undisputed worst player in the entire sport this past season and that's not an outlier: The guy had awful metrics on a Vegas team where having awful metrics should've been all but impossible.

 

[sabremike]

At $2.2 M he has ZERO value. Absolutely zero. No chance he's taken unless Buffalo gives them a pick to get it done. I sure wouldn't give up Boston second to get it done. Not sure I'd give up third either.

If giving up that Boston pick that's likely closer in value to a third was enough to get Seattle to take Eakin I'd do it in half a millisecond.

 

[enthusiast]

I think Seattle will probably be burdened by expectations given Vegas’ surprise success. Whether that means they’ll try to copy the model by accepting certain players for picks or instead try to target the best ones is anybody’s guess, but if they can offload okposo for anything short of a first I’d be ecstatic

e: that is of course assuming they intend to compete next season. If not, well shit take on some more bad contracts

 

[Nikolajs Sillers]

I think Eakin might also be a legit option for Seattle. Only under contract for one more year. Good at the dot. Good PKer, plays with a ton of energy and speed. I think it's entirely possible that Seattle thinks that getting him away from Buffalo helps him return to "normal". Just look at what getting away from here did for Montour, Hall and Staal (at least post-season Staal).

Are we speaking about same player here?

 

[threeVo]

Yeah, trade the one guy who can score to protect very average Bjork because Boston demanded to throw him in for Lazar. Makes sense.

Hes a PP specialist, hes below replacement at ES. The Sabres need guys who can play both ends and score at ES. That isnt VO. His value is at a good place to win a trade. Hes a third line winger at ES and anyone on the opposite side of Eichel is going to score on the PP.

 

[Rastin]

Is it worth dropping down to #2 in exchange for Seattle to take Eakin in the expansion draft? I, personally, am ok with either Beniers or Power so I'd certainly do it. Not sure Seattle would though.

Sabres rid themselves of dead weight while protecting a decent asset (Bjork, Asplund, Borgen et all).

Seattle makes a splash by garnering the 1OA.

 

[DJN21]

Is it worth dropping down to #2 in exchange for Seattle to take Eakin in the expansion draft? I, personally, am ok with either Beniers or Power so I'd certainly do it. Not sure Seattle would though.

Sabres rid themselves of dead weight while protecting a decent asset (Bjork, Asplund, Borgen et all).

Seattle makes a splash by garnering the 1OA.

Id do this 100%

 

[Jim Bob]

Is it worth dropping down to #2 in exchange for Seattle to take Eakin in the expansion draft? I, personally, am ok with either Beniers or Power so I'd certainly do it. Not sure Seattle would though.

Sabres rid themselves of dead weight while protecting a decent asset (Bjork, Asplund, Borgen et all).

Seattle makes a splash by garnering the 1OA.

I don't believe that Ron Francis cares about that at all.

 

[tsujimoto74]

Is it worth dropping down to #2 in exchange for Seattle to take Eakin in the expansion draft? I, personally, am ok with either Beniers or Power so I'd certainly do it. Not sure Seattle would though.

Sabres rid themselves of dead weight while protecting a decent asset (Bjork, Asplund, Borgen et all).

Seattle makes a splash by garnering the 1OA.

Seems like kind of a waste. Eakin's trash, but he's only taking up $2.2M of space for 1 more year.

 

[Rastin]

Maybe not about making a splash but they may value one prospect more than the others. Also, while Francis may not care, ownership might like it to drum up more excitement for their new franchise. Regardless, I don't think that Eakin over, say Bjork, is a crazy cost to move up to #1.

I don't believe that Ron Francis cares about that at all.

 

[Rastin]

It also protects one of our young NHL ready (or near ready) prospects from being taken in the xpac draft. So we'd save 2.2m towards the cap, free up a roster spot for our young guys and retain an extra asset we would otherwise lose. Well worth it in my opinion.

Seems like kind of a waste. Eakin's trash, but he's only taking up $2.2M of space for 1 more year.

 

[Jim Bob]

Maybe not about making a splash but they may value one prospect more than the others. Also, while Francis may not care, ownership might like it to drum up more excitement for their new franchise. Regardless, I don't think that Eakin over, say Bjork, is a crazy cost to move up to #1.

I doubt Seattle ownership is vetting trades and making Francis accept a deal for marketing buzz.

I also doubt that the Sabres roll the dice like that. I think they will stick at 1OV and take their guy.

 

[DJN21]

I doubt Seattle ownership is vetting trades and making Francis accept a deal for marketing buzz.

I also doubt that the Sabres roll the dice like that. I think they will stick at 1OV and take their guy.

Why? This is an odd case in NHL history where we might benefit more from not being in the spotlight of picking 1st as losers, and Seattle benefits from having the spotlight on them to open their season.

I cant see a clear difference between Berniers and Power. I like both and would be happy with both. If we can clear a dead body contract like Eakin and still get either thats a homerun for me.

 

[HogtownSabresfan]

Hes a PP specialist, hes below replacement at ES. The Sabres need guys who can play both ends and score at ES. That isnt VO. His value is at a good place to win a trade. Hes a third line winger at ES and anyone on the opposite side of Eichel is going to score on the PP.

Trade Olofsson to protect a marginal NHL player like Bjork. LOL.

 

[Rowley Birkin]

Why? This is an odd case in NHL history where we might benefit more from not being in the spotlight of picking 1st as losers, and Seattle benefits from having the spotlight on them to open their season.

I cant see a clear difference between Berniers and Power. I like both and would be happy with both. If we can clear a dead body contract like Eakin and still get either thats a homerun for me.

Put yourself in their position.

If Seattle thinks like that - why the hell would they give anything up or take a bad contract to swap picks? They will just take whoever we don't & be happy with it.

Show me ANY precedent for this type of trade being a thing...