Sabres 2022 Draft Board - #20 (Poll)

[Zach716]

Current list

1. Shane Wright ---------- (85.7%)
2. Juraj Slafkovský -------- (51.0%)
3. Logan Cooley ---------- (64.6%)
4. Simon Nemec ---------- (76.7%)
5. David Jiricek ------------ (62.2%)
6. Cutter Gauthier --------- (58.8%)
7. Matthew Savoie -------- (48.9%)
8. Frank Nazar ------------- (48.3%)
9. Joakim Kemell ----------- (40.0%)
10. Jonathan Lekkerimäki -- (38.0%)
11. Rutger McGroarty ------ (28.3%)
12. Marco Kasper ----------- (51.0%)
13. Danila Yurov ------------ (19.5%)
14. Liam Öhgren ------------ (28.6%)
15. Kevin Korchinski -------- (53.3%) *
16. Brad Lambert ----------- (18.6%)
17. Pavel Mintyukov -------- (27.6%)
18. ̶Noah Ostlund ---------- (68.0%) *
19. Jimmy Snuggerud ------ (77.8%) *
20. ____

* equals runoff vote

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[jmelm]

Pickering again, but as we’re getting into the 20’s I’ll just say again, I REALLY want Lutz at 28. Will trade up if necessary.

 

[KiwiGriff]

Liam Bichsel. Not sure why I like him, but I do.

 

[jmelm]

Liam Bichsel. Not sure why I like him, but I do.

I welcome you to the club of the minority who want a Dman, even if they were born with the curse of shooting left handed

 

[Fjordy]

Again Miro

 

[jmelm]

If we want a big forward who might be able to fill in on C when needed, I'll take Lutz 100 times out of 100 over Geekie.

 

[RefsIdeas]

The Geekie hate has gone too far! I think there’s a realistic shot the Sabres take him at 9. Not that he would be my pick there, but I have a gut feeling about it. I picked up the Black Book yesterday and it made me much more comfortable with that idea. No way would I have guys like Ostlund or Kulich ahead of him.

 

[markpenske]

from that list I like Howard, Mateychuk and "The Geek"

 

[EXTRAS]

Kyrou

 

[jc17]

The Geekie hate has gone too far! I think there’s a realistic shot the Sabres take him at 9. Not that he would be my pick there, but I have a gut feeling about it. I picked up the Black Book yesterday and it made me much more comfortable with that idea. No way would I have guys like Ostlund or Kulich ahead of him.

I thought the black book dropped him a lot?

 

[RefsIdeas]

I thought the black book dropped him a lot?

He's ranked 23 but the scouting report doesn't really match up with their analysis of him IMO

 

[displacedsabre]

The Geekie hate has gone too far! I think there’s a realistic shot the Sabres take him at 9. Not that he would be my pick there, but I have a gut feeling about it. I picked up the Black Book yesterday and it made me much more comfortable with that idea. No way would I have guys like Ostlund or Kulich ahead of him.

If they take him at 9, I will be here all night with my popcorn. It will be a like watching as the joker , watching the world burn

 

[Rowley Birkin]

If they take him at 9, I will be here all night with my popcorn. It will be a like watching as the joker , watching the world burn

Registered since 2016? You should have been here long enough to have experienced this already...

The way I'm looking at it is - with three picks - they can't all possibly be ones i hate... Can they?

 

[MarkusKetterer]

Registered since 2016? You should have been here long enough to have experienced this already...

The way I'm looking at it is - with three picks - they can't all possibly be ones i hate... Can they?

“Hold my beer” — Buffalo Sabres, 2022

 

[RefsIdeas]

If they take him at 9, I will be here all night with my popcorn. It will be a like watching as the joker , watching the world burn

lol! I can certainly see why people would have problems with his game. In my opinion (I could be wrong) he still has a lot of improvement left in him. Compare him with somebody like his teammate Savoie who I think is pretty much maxed out, I think it's very close. Right now, Savoie is the better player, no doubt. But if Savoie only improves 10% on what he is now, and Geekie improves 30% - then it's a different story.

Kind of similar situation when people lost their minds with Jack Quinn ahead of Marco Rossi. Rossi was the better player right then and there, no doubt. But Quinn continues to develop where Rossi has only mildly improved. Doesn't mean Rossi is a bad player by any means, just that Quinn had more potential to unlock.

You combine his size + skill combo and project that with an improvement in skating, strength and puck-handling (easier said than done) you really have something. Or he doesn't improve much and he's an average third line center.

 

[tsujimoto74]

lol! I can certainly see why people would have problems with his game. In my opinion (I could be wrong) he still has a lot of improvement left in him. Compare him with somebody like his teammate Savoie who I think is pretty much maxed out, I think it's very close. Right now, Savoie is the better player, no doubt. But if Savoie only improves 10% on what he is now, and Geekie improves 30% - then it's a different story.

Kind of similar situation when people lost their minds with Jack Quinn ahead of Marco Rossi. Rossi was the better player right then and there, no doubt. But Quinn continues to develop where Rossi has only mildly improved. Doesn't mean Rossi is a bad player by any means, just that Quinn had more potential to unlock.

You combine his size + skill combo and project that with an improvement in skating, strength and puck-handling (easier said than done) you really have something. Or he doesn't improve much and he's an average third line center.

Quinn was a late bloomer who improved significantly over the course of his draft season. The talent and trajectory were both there. Geekie's development line has been flat.

 

[RefsIdeas]

Quinn was a late bloomer who improved significantly over the course of his draft season. The talent and trajectory were both there. Geekie's development line has been flat.

True! I guess the one thing that Geekie has going for him over Quinn in that comparison is that Quinn was already an older prospect, where Geekie is one of the younger ones. If Geekie were to be a late-bloomer, that could still come at the same age as Quinn. Still, a valid concern and one I share, but I do think you see the flashes of what he can be throughout the season. If he puts it all together, it's a big draft hit.

 

[Ace]

The Geekie hate has gone too far! I think there’s a realistic shot the Sabres take him at 9. Not that he would be my pick there, but I have a gut feeling about it. I picked up the Black Book yesterday and it made me much more comfortable with that idea. No way would I have guys like Ostlund or Kulich ahead of him.

If I wanted a low effort non physical non aggressive tall guy I can get one someone else wasted a draft pick on cheap in free agency.

 

[My Cozen Dylan]

Mesar again (again again).

 

[NotABadPeriod]

Registered since 2016? You should have been here long enough to have experienced this already...

The way I'm looking at it is - with three picks - they can't all possibly be ones i hate... Can they?

For me, I don't think anything is going to top the hot takes from the Tyler Myers draft thread, especially since we traded up one draft spot for him (which a lot of people couldn't or perhaps refused to understand why), and took him in front of a physical D-man the board loved in Teubert. Boy were a bunch of people eating way too much crow two years later when he won the Calder...

 

[Fezzy126]

The Geekie hate has gone too far! I think there’s a realistic shot the Sabres take him at 9. Not that he would be my pick there, but I have a gut feeling about it. I picked up the Black Book yesterday and it made me much more comfortable with that idea. No way would I have guys like Ostlund or Kulich ahead of him.

Don't bother... Whether it's over scouting or the echo chamber of people complaining about him, most people here have soured on him. In the draft/prospect threads he was nearly unanimously considered a top 10-15 pick by most fans here at the end of April. Then he had a subpar playoffs and a few of the agencies dropped him in their rankings, and now it is what it is.

I agree with your take, but at the end of the day this is a meaningless prospect poll, so

If I had one complaint it would be the way the poll handles ties. I think both players should get slotted in the event of a tie, with the runoff winner getting slotted a spot higher. But that's just a minor complaint... The poll serves it's purpose, helps all of us pass the time with a bit more prospect talk until the draft.

 

[Zach716]

Don't bother... Whether it's over scouting or the echo chamber of people complaining about him, most people here have soured on him. In the draft/prospect threads he was nearly unanimously considered a top 10-15 pick by most fans here at the end of April. Then he had a subpar playoffs and a few of the agencies dropped him in their rankings, and now it is what it is.

I agree with your take, but at the end of the day this is a meaningless prospect poll, so

If I had one complaint it would be the way the poll handles ties. I think both players should get slotted in the event of a tie, with the runoff winner getting slotted a spot higher. But that's just a minor complaint... The poll serves it's purpose, helps all of us pass the time with a bit more prospect talk until the draft.

Yeah I just ended up doing it that way because the first runoff poll was caused by low turnout so I figured it’d be better to just start the next poll instead to get more opinions represented.

Just stayed consistent after that. I honestly didn’t expect many runoffs with 25-50+ ppl voting in each poll but we’ve already had 3 before pick 20

One thing that is forsure is that after pick 12 this boards preferences widely varies.

 

[Chainshot]

Yeah I just ended up doing it that way because the first runoff poll was caused by low turnout so I figured it’d be better to just start the next poll instead to get more opinions represented.

Just stayed consistent after that. I honestly didn’t expect many runoffs with 25-50+ ppl voting in each poll but we’ve already had 3 before pick 20

One thing that is forsure is that after pick 12 this boards preferences widely varies.

We will likely see that in real life too. Every year, teams have leaks of what their boards are (the insider videos of their war rooms on the lead up to the draft are often dissected) that are unique to the team. Said another way, the teams don't have a consensus usually either.

 

[Chainshot]

The Geekie hate has gone too far! I think there’s a realistic shot the Sabres take him at 9. Not that he would be my pick there, but I have a gut feeling about it. I picked up the Black Book yesterday and it made me much more comfortable with that idea. No way would I have guys like Ostlund or Kulich ahead of him.

Hate? Eh, more like there are other players I like more. Watched a lot of the Ice early, hoping to see Geekie (and Savoie) be the sort of players hinted at during the early talk about this draft and was just left wanting more far too often. Same thing with Lambert - wanted to like him after seeing him last year, just left watching him not capitalize on what he was creating regardless of if it was with JYP or Pelicans.